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Pushed over the edge by benefit cheats!

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CheekyChoppers · 09/04/2012 15:59

I'm getting increasingly annoyed with my neighbours family, we're very close and have been for a long time, but they are just so loose cheeky it makes me want to do something! But at the same time I don't know if I should just mind my own!!

My neighbour has three daughters;

Daughter 'A' lives in a council property with her children and claims all her entitled benefits as a single parent. Her long term boyfriend also lives with her, and he works full time earning a lot of money. He owns his own property which they rent out to make more cash for themselves!

Daughter 'B' lives in a council property with her son and claims benefits as a single person, although her partner also lives there and works full time.

Daughter 'C' (this is what's really pissed me off today!). She is married and lives with her husband and children in their own (mortgaged) property. They both work and earn good money. She however has made a dodgy application to the council housing list and has been offered a property which they are goin to accept! They plan to sell their home!

It annoys the hell out of me that so much money is being fraudulently claimed, and that it is clearly so easy to do. I really want to dob the cheeky bastards in, although am abit scared they'll find out it was me! And don't know if I should just mind my own beeswax!

OP posts:
ShirleyKnot · 09/04/2012 19:57

KNOW BETTER of course.

SleeepyHead · 09/04/2012 19:57

What's trolling?

CrystalMaize · 09/04/2012 20:00

Grin sleeepy

PaquesJeLeVauxBien · 09/04/2012 20:01

Ha ha ha ha sleeepy!

Biscuit
Anniegetyourgun · 09/04/2012 20:01

It's being one of <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=warcraft+troll&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=643&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=hsVeggAw_AIldM:&imgrefurl=us.battle.net/wow/en/media/artwork/wow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">these.

Originalplurker · 09/04/2012 20:01

So let's all just calm down and have a goat milkshake.

Claiming benefits is ok
Claiming benefits fraudulently is not

Deciding if someone should be reported seems to be v troublesome.

We are stakeholders as we live here in a country that has a welfare system which we may or may not use at any given time, so it is everyone's business that the system is fair and equitable whether used or not by individuals.

So does this give us the right to report, don't they invite people to inform?

Personally I want people looked after appropriately and fairly so reducing any fraud is a good thing as it frees up resources to help those in need.

thekidsrule · 09/04/2012 20:01

why does it seem that the majority of the time females have to fight the injustices that come across our lives,keep things going,pull ourselves up,take all thats thrown

im in a pondering mode now

LineRunner · 09/04/2012 20:03

I wouldn't bother reporting anyone to a fraud office where the staff salaries seem to potentially outweigh any money ever recouped to the public purse.

BeerTricksPott3r · 09/04/2012 20:03

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CrystalMaize · 09/04/2012 20:03

Original - good summary

ShirleyKnot · 09/04/2012 20:05

As much as I wish your final sentence were true Oplurker, it is naive to believe that would be the case.

LineRunner · 09/04/2012 20:05

Is that Donald Sutherland, BeerTricks?

I should have married him instead.

Originalplurker · 09/04/2012 20:06

Thanks crystal

CrystalMaize · 09/04/2012 20:06

Fraud is fraud, right? Would you even dream of tackling a money launderer/tax evader/benefit fraudster without evidence?

CrystalMaize · 09/04/2012 20:07

Goats notwithstanding, naturally

PosiePaques · 09/04/2012 20:07

"JosephineCD Mon 09-Apr-12 19:30:43
^If she had no partner the benefits would still have to be payed.

Are you suggesting she should live a companionless existence to assuage the peevish begrudgers?^
No. I think women should not have children with men that they know in their heart of hearts, will not make good fathers. And if women want to find new partners, that new partner has to be aware that there are children involved.

Very few men will move in with a woman and not contribute to the houshold. Paying for Sky was always a favourite, and an easy one to prove, get the name of the woman and her address, does she declare that anyone else is contributing to the household? No? Ring Sky and see if she has TV with them, if so, whose name is on the account? If it's not her, we've got her bang to rights, and we'll have her down here within the hour singing like a canary."

That's a very very funny post, unless you're serious.

BeerTricksPott3r · 09/04/2012 20:07

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Originalplurker · 09/04/2012 20:08

Yes shirely it is the age old problem of scarcity, opportunity costs and allocating of resources efficiently.

SleeepyHead · 09/04/2012 20:08

Oh, is the conversation about fraud still going on? I hadn't noticed Grin

SuePoiblybilt · 09/04/2012 20:08

My Heart of Hearts is defective - I pick shit men. Is there a government funded repair programme?
I realise it's all my fault for having a uterus and I'm ver sorry.

PosiePaques · 09/04/2012 20:09

Fraud is fraud, you're right. But encouraging people to inform on people that, let's face it, are on about £15k per annum is just breeding shit. It suits the government, damn it suits capitalism, to pit the poor against eachother.

CrystalMaize · 09/04/2012 20:11

No. I think women should not have children with men that they know in their heart of hearts, will not make good fathers. And if women want to find new partners, that new partner has to be aware that there are children involved.

Good point. When I last looked into the future, I saw this and took action. Phew!

MissMogwi · 09/04/2012 20:12

'No. I think women should not have children with men that they know in their heart of hearts, will not make good fathers.'

I was with my ex for over ten years. Great, loving relationship. We planned our family after six years together. I had no idea he'd have an affair and leave me with two children under four. I had no idea he would force me into the sale of my home and pay no maintenance for the best part of six years.

Have a Biscuit from me and the kids.

Originalplurker · 09/04/2012 20:13

crystal you are right but having never reported anyone I'm not sure how seriously they'd take your complaint if you are not able to confidently give information, suppose it depends on nature of suspected fraudulent claim.

There is a women on our estate who I think does cash in hand jobs, I know for a fact she is of dishonest character but I don't feel I could just ring HMRC and say... Oo she's doing cash jobs.

CrystalMaize · 09/04/2012 20:14

I'm not in favour of informing because it breeds judgement, which I feel is unhealthy. Live and let live. Unless of course you saw a murder - wee bit different. I don't believe you can ever know the full extent of a story concerning benefits because it's so complex. So unless you have CONCRETE evidence, i.e. paperwork, back off and live your own life.