To think that parents that let their ds pull their pants down and pee in the street are just training them to pee anywhere they want when their older

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I get really annoyed by parents that let their ds piss anywhere they want as soon as they need the loo. I once spotted someone letting their son pee up a tree in the communal gardens to my flat. I thought you would kill him if he was caught doing that when he's older and drunk. So why train him to do it now.

AIBU

I think we need a study, because I think women may well urinate in public when they're drunk, but they do it somewhere secluded, because they feel vulnerable.

Men who urinate publicly in full view of everyone, aren't poor little dears caught short, with utterly no choice but to go right then and there, or have wet trousers. They just don't feel scared enough to hide.

Geekpie that's my point. Girls peeing in the street is seen as not acceptable as they have to pull their skirt up and flash their arse and "fanj" but boys just pee anywhere. I can understand the peeing behind a bush if caught short but seriously in the middle of the street in a drain? Isn't that just telling them that there is no shame in peeing in public.

Well it's certainly a better worded post which is now miles away from your OP.

FWIW I don't thnk the two are connected at all and still think YABU.

Sorry shankey maybe I could of written the op better... it's sounded better in my head tbh.

x-post with GeekPie

sounds like you have penis envy. Do you dream of peeing your name in the snow?

hahaha NO!

I think as long as it is explained to the child that it's an emergency then it should be ok...we had an embarrassing moment similar to this. Took my DH's son to MIL's house, which has 1 bathroom. Unfortunately DH's son decided he needed a wee immediately (he was struggling big-time with potty training) but DH's grandma had just gone into the loo and was not known for her speediness. So...DH decided to get DS to pee into the shower tray. Problem solved...or so he thought. He'd forgotten to mention to DS that the shower can't be used as a toilet normally and that they'd only used it as an emergency.

1 hour later, DS ran into the kitchen in a massive stare of excitement, for the first time ever he'd taken himself to do a number 2 with no help and was very proud. We gave him lots of praise, then went to the loo but there was nothing there. Guess where it was?! Yup, in the shower tray. Nice.

However, after explanation, he never did it there, or anywhere inappropriate again. But we'd still allow him to use the shower again if it meant avoiding peeing himself.

Probably not massively useful to this thread but quite funny anyway!

I let my 4 year old ds pee outdoors if there is nowhere else I can take him, like a shop or a cafe or wherever.

My ex however apparently thinks its ok for ds to be pooing in the bushes at the kids park rather than them walking the five minutes back to his flat to use the toilet, which frankly is unnecessary and disgusting. Doesn't even bag it and bin it like you would do with dog poo, just leaves it for some other poor child to fall in. Now that's rank.

I took my almost-3 year old DS into a disabled toilet once. The non-disabled toilets were up a flight of stairs and I had DD in her pram - I knew by the time I had bumped the pram up a whole flight of stairs DS would have wet himself. We came out to be confronted by an angry woman shouting at us for using the disabled toilet. She agreed we could not have accessed any other toilet but said that I should have taken DS outside and got him to pee against the shop wall, rather than using a disabled toilet.

yabu. I've let mine wee in bushes or over the gutter when little & only over their dead bodies would they (the boy or girl) wee in public now (age 10 & 12). They would literally wet themselves first -- bit of a problem since DD is prone to UTIs anyway.

Girls can wee in public without flashing, involves squatting right down or lifting skirts carefully.

It's funny OP mentions carrying a potty around because (donning flameproof suit now) I find the idea of carrying a potty around truly truly minging. If they aren't able to hold it in until a toilet would usually be accessed (2-5 minutes delay) then they aren't ready at all, imho. That said, I'm the sort of person who is often located more than 10 minutes from toilets.

Ok, here goes. I don't like seeing kids weeing in public either op (although I'm not sure that it teaches them to do it when older) I just don't like it.

And yes, I have kids. And yes, they're potty trained.

Being a girl with poor bladder control, I frequently found myself caught short as a child. I weed in behind every tree in every local park within a 10 mile radius. These days I am finally able understand the concept that an hour is a long time therefore I must wee before I leave to walk the dog in the park even if I don't feel the urge. Fortunately, I've never felt inclined to pull my jeans down, squat and wee behind a tree as an adult.

I don't like to see it either, I just understand that Needs Must on occasion. We have all sorts of different social rules for babies & young children.

I just let mine piss anywhere. We are Broken Britain , op.

It's very useful life skill: being able to do a proper 'camping wee' without peeing all over your pants / skirt / trousers if you're a girl.

I just let mine piss anywhere. We are Broken Britain , op.

My friend's child fell off his bike into dog shit yesterday. Another friend had a child who fell face first into a pile of shit in the park and it went into his mouth, stuck round his teeth. We frequently walk through wee rivers of piss created my people with their mutts, I don't think small children peeing in the gutter is really a big deal.

when you see it happening, run at them with a machete and a blood-curdling yell. They will be traumatised and unable ever to piss in the street again.

ragged I read your post as "I let mine wee over dead bodies"

YANBU - I agree. I have a 2 year old and I've never had to let her pee in the street/park or anywhere else. We make sure she goes for a wee before she leaves the house and she goes again as soon as she gets to destination, or we stop on the way if it's a long drive. We then make sure we take her at least once or twice while we're out, as soon as we go anywhere near a public toilet.

Luckily all the parks that we go to have public toilets and until she has better control, we will avoid going to places that don't.

As a little bit of support for the OP (even though i wouldn't care if a toddler was peeing on a tree), a few weeks ago I did see a girl of 7-8yrs peeing in the sand half way between the sea and the hotel toilets! Her mother was standing by with a bottle of mineral water to wash her legs afterwards - now IMO that is unnecessary and did make me a bit

Get yourself on of these OP, then you can join the hordes of little boys that pee up trees.

FWIW, I have peed outside when very very drunk before. Not proud of it, but it was either that or wet myself, same as it would have been when I was a small child.

In my experience when a young (recently trained) boy says "I need to pee" it means that wee is about to come out of his willy (or is coming out!)... too late to get anywhere not in 10m radius. Girls are better, sometimes.

By the time they are school age, I think they should (aside from medical issues) have the recognition to know they need to go in time to get to a toilet within a few minutes (5 or so).... but if you're faced with a child who needs to go and no toilet in the area, what is the choice? It either comes out on the pavement and themselves, or into a discreet garden/tree area.

YABU