to tell an elderly gent to f*ck off

[Helenfellows33]

i was on a family day out on a steam train and on the way home an infirm old man got on with his carer. she left shortly after and he was on his own in his wheelchair with me and my dh and dc's. this journey was about an hour long and ds being cranky started to cry. and the old man turned to him and shouted at him to be quiet boy. at this i told him to shut the fuck up and a list of words i cant mention here. dh backed me up although i was telling a friend later she said he was ok too this as he was old, we are now not speaking cause of this. AIBU for doing that to an elderly person.

lalady respect is earned. its not automatic when they are shouting at you old or not

same old same old catgirl nothing much

Yes Catgirl- the ops constant insistance she was in the right, everyone else is wrong

OP!!!!! OOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!

did you say a list of words that cant be repeated on MN?

YOU WERE IN THE WRONG OP.

GET A BLOODY GRIP.

#faints at the pointlessness of life

Just kidding. Of COURSE YABU, just couldn't believe my eyes at the unanimous response. Although sometimes all it takes is one person to say YANBU for all the other scum symperthisers to come out of the woodwork...

Can you see your unreasonableness yet?

respect is earned. its not automatic when they are shouting at you old or not

Oh dear, you will be telling us how entitled you are next too...

Still not admitted being U?

Wow

That is commitment :)

HelenF it does not matter where the others in the party were sitting!!

Maybe they knew that you were The Asbo family on an outing and chose to sit far away.

Dont try to turn this into "nobody wants to sit with the foul old man". It is not going to work.

It doesnt matter what age a person is helen you behaved int he exactly the same way as the other person , it couldve been a 20 or an 80 yr old man who said it , the way you handled it was off ,

I don't think anyone is assuming that the man was necessarily a 'kindly' person - I think they are assuming that (since he was elderly, in a wheelchair, and assisted by a carer) he might possibly find a situation with a screaming toddler more difficult to cope with than someone else and reacted accordingly. And that you (as a person with presumably normal reserves of empathy, kindness and compassion) should have made allowances for his vulnerability and responded in a more appropriate and adult fashion, thus setting a better example for your child and maintaining the moral high ground.

Can we assume that you are a 'kindly person'? It would seem not from your posts, so what gives you the ability to judge others by that criteria?

I don't think you could be more chavy than swearing in public.

Vivi I've stopped giving out badges. There's not much call.

OP, I meant to add that you suggesting that the people with him didn't want to sit with him was 'telling', just makes you sound even worse. Even if he was the most horrible human being alive, that does not give you the right to behave towards him the way you did. Only you control your own reactions and responses. Nothing he did made you behave that way and there is no excuse for it whatsoever. You chose to treat him that way. If you can't see what is wrong with yelling foul language in public at a very vulnerable eldery person, then I am truly worried about you.

I'm confused as to how another adult doesn't understand the basics of civility. This is all stuff I knew before I started school. I imagine everyone else on this thread is the same!

NO.

Respect is not something that is earned. It is something that should be accorded to everyone, regardless. It is, however, something that can be very easily lost. That was a frail old man in a wheelchair that you abused so appallingly. If anyone deserved a bit of understanding and respect, it was him.

Do you feel you still have the right to respect?

I can truly understand your anger, but not the foul language.

Tufty

OP is there not one fibre of your being that will concede that you behaved inappropriately and accept that you were indeed wholly unreasonable?

how can you say what look like? or that im an asbo family, your ignorance astounds me.

sovery.. a cross between that, Vicky Pollard, and Waynetta Slob is coming to my mind..

Certainly not the sort of people you hope to encounter on a civilised day out anyway!

your ignorance astounds me

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAH

Stratters, this comment annoyed me so much it inspired me to start a whole other thread. And no, it is not a thread about a thread, it is a thread about decency. Inspired by incredibly self-important people.