AIBU to think the "40 Days for Life" campaigners are utterly immoral

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news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9705000/9705877.stm

You're absolutely right LQ, this is less about abortion and more about feeling superior.

You're also right about the cowardice. Its easy to attack someone who is in no position either mentally or physically, to fight back. How brave of them to pick on terrified young women, some of whom will be emotionally and legally still children. I saw a young girl of about 13 or 14 when I was at the Calthorpe, she was with her mum and look petrified, I dread to think how a girl of that age would cope with whats going on now :(

Well said Bogeyface, those vulnerable women are there because they have the love and compassion in their hearts to know that they are in no potion to bring up a child.

YANBU.

This kind of nasty bullying damages the reputation of Christians as a whole.

V interesting link about Reaction Formation... wasn't one of the Nazi leaders who was partly responsible for the Holocaust Jewish himself? Can't remember his name right now but it was a similarly distorded (and wicked) reaction.

Sorry that is a bit off topic.

There was a thread on the Guardian the other day about this whereby someone was setting up a sponsorship scheme. The way it worked was that you "sponsor" the 40 days people, promising £x per day for however long they stay there. You then give the money raised TO THE CLINIC whose clients are being harassed. The 40 days people are therefore "assisting" with the raising of money for the clinic (clearly not by choice).

Hopefully it wil encourage the nutters to leave sooner or at least help the clinic protect their clients.

And YANBU

Just signed the petition. It has only got 24 names so far.

Signed. 26 so far.

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I thought this was a great idea:

uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-web/fundraiser/showFundraiserProfilePage.action?userUrl=boycott40daysforlife&isTeam=true

From the website:

To begin counter-protests outside clinics is only likely to add to tension and stress, and legitimise clinics as a place for protest: so here is another way to oppose the "40 days for life" vigils - by making them raise money for the clinics they target.

Every penny donated through this page goes directly to BPAS, who offer counselling on family planning to thousands of women a year, and who are the UK's argest independent provider of abortion care - and are the operator of many of the clinics targeted by "40 Days".

Please, donate to BPAS for each day - or even each hour - the vigils continue.

Doing so makes each day the anti-abortion campaigners continue raise more money for pro-choice charities, and ensures their protests will not have the effect they desire. It also sends a message about where UK opinion really lies

Ahh, just realised this was the same thing lisianthus was talking about!

Bloody hell, Daddywarthog, have a
Do you honestly think that most abortions involve an actual baby ie that we start off with a perfectly formed baby that just gets bigger and bigger until it's ready to come out? Google images of foetal development and have a look at what a foetus actually starts as; a cluster of cells that takes months to develop into anything even remotely resembling a human being.
Petition signed and shared, by the way.

signed.

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Signed the petition too.

That link was very interesting, isn't it amazing how far some people will go to fool themselves
Bigoted inadaquates is the perfect description for them

Peahen - it's not a bundle of cells at 24 weeks (current abortion limit) and it is much more than 'a cluster of cells' by 7/8 weeks and is discernible as a human 'baby' by 12 weeks (usual first scan). Unless of ourselves you mean 'bundle of cells' in the sense that we're all bundles of cells....

Signed and supported. These people make me want to vomit - bastards.

Bumbley - Peahen didn't say it was. Plus 12 weeks is 3 months - Peahen said 'takes months to develop'. What exactly is your point?

That it's more than a 'bundle of cells' when many abortions take place LtEve.

Yes bumbleymummy, but isn't the point that the foetus/bundle of cells/baby/ whatever you want to call it, is a part of a woman's body, until the time when it is capable of surviving on its own outside of her body?

Otherwise you'd have to consider that every unfertilised egg or sperm was a potential human life too.

And if it's part of a woman's body, then it's her choice what to do with it. No one else's.

I think it's like being a vegetarian. I'm a vegetarian, because I don't want to eat dead animals, but I don't think I should be able to impose that choice on anyone else. If you don't believe in abortion and choose not to have one yourself, fine. But don't try to impose that choice on others.

Anyway, I signed the petition too.

No mrsbugs, I see it as a life which is why my views differ from quite a few on MN.

Interesting that you are vegetarian and support abortion though....

why's that bumbley

Just that you put animal life ahead of human life that's all. Of course I realise that it depends on your definition of life but many pro-choicers are a bit hazy on that too...