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to be confused? Transgender pregnancy.

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troisgarcons · 11/03/2012 22:20

In the papers today.

In short, a woman commences the transgender process into a man. She becomes/lives as a gay man. But keeps her womb and overies. Stops taking her medication, gets pregnant (deliberately) by her gay male lover.

I'm a bit lost here. Clearly she isn't a man? And I have to ask where the gay male boyfriend thought the was popping his sausage?

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garlicbutter · 12/03/2012 15:35

Thank you for your post, Fedup. You're right. I hope your sibling succeeds in making peace with her new life and accepting the love of people who know, and care.

garlicbutter · 12/03/2012 15:41

Pi - I usually get trounced for saying things about having babies being a lifestyle choice Shock but I think it may cast light on your question here!

Changing gender is a major lifestyle choice. I can't claim to know what it feels like, but clearly it feels as though your life will fit you better after making this choice.

Having a baby is another major life-changing choice. Most here will have known what it feels like to 'know' your life will fit you better when you have a child.

Neither choice is easy. They're both driven by a deep, basic urge.

When you have both those urges, you must feel pretty damn frantic! Then you realise your own body, with a little help, can fix both problems.

Well, you'd go for it, wouldn't you? :)

WidowWadman · 12/03/2012 20:43

Why would anyone think that someone, just because they feel they identify as male whilst being born with a female body would not have the desire to have children which carry their genes? Confused

And I don't get the toilet hoohah either - I usually use a cubicle, and thus noone gets to see my bits nor do I get to see anyone elses bits when using a public toilet. What's in anyone's pants is none of your business.

FreudianSlipper · 12/03/2012 20:53

i was under the impression before you underwent any treatment that you were made aware of the changes in your body and what you may be giving up and given supportive counselling before and while receivign treatment

so why are they carrying out treatment on people who are not sure, or are they sure but want to be a man but still have a baby. i can not see how that can not be confusing for themselves, for those they are in a realtionship with and for their child/children

garlicbutter · 12/03/2012 21:01

Men have a strong desire for children, too. Had you noticed?!

OTheHugeManatee wrote earlier about her MTF friend, who did exactly what the OP describes after his female partner became infertile.

It looks like common sense to me.

OTHM and Nyac, on those programmes where they dress a man up as a woman (and train him how to walk & sit, etc) the man is always shocked to discover the ubiquity of sexist treatment. Going by those (fairly frequent) experiments, Dworkin was way wrong. You only have to seem female to be less worthy of respect.

garlicbutter · 12/03/2012 21:02

oops, friend must have been FTM! sorry!

SconeInSixtySeconds · 13/03/2012 01:35

What a great post Fedup. Everyone is entitled to hope and equality.

FreddieMercurysBolero · 14/03/2012 01:00

Fedup, what an insightful and honest post. I really hope everything goes well for your brother and you can continue to have a relationship.

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