Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think the tax credits system is not designed to support people that have as many children as they fancy and expect the state to pick up the tab?

350 replies

LadyLazyLongLegs · 05/03/2012 21:24

An acquaintance has just announced she is pregnant with her fifth child. Her 4 children are by 2 separate fathers, and #5 is by a different father again. Her partner has a job in which he is unlikely to earn much more than the minimum wage. She doesn't work, and says they are heavily reliant on tax credits and housing benefit. Yet they are having baby #5, so effectively expecting that the tax credits system will just pick up the tab, as she has made several comments about how the tax credits will go up when #5 arrives.

Someone else I know who also says they are heavily reliant on TCs has recently had baby#3 and would like baby#4 in the near future. Again she says they can afford it as their tax credits will go up. The only working income coming into their home is that from her husband's 16 hours a week job in a shop, everything else is benefits.

What I'm trying to say is, those of us that support ourselves with no reliance on benefits have a cut off point of children that we can afford and we stop at that point. We stuck at 3 as that's all we can afford even though I would have liked one more. I feel that those that keep having child after child, totally reliant on tax credits, are abusing the system.

OP posts:
ilikecandyandrunning · 05/03/2012 22:36

I'm always amazed at how many people jump up to defend people who think they can have as many kids as they want as long as they have someone else pick up the tab

Op - yanbu at all

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:37

You can change it up to 12 months.

LadyLazyLongLegs · 05/03/2012 22:37

I'm glad that some of you have got the point of what I've said and haven't jumped on the bandwagon!

OP posts:
LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:38

And for the record petitema never been on netmums so your judgment is wrong! Grin

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:38

Do I get a nanny/cleaner if I have loads of dcs? And a goat?

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:38

ilikecandy Smile

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:39

You should try it.

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:39

Nah I'm ok thank you. Smile

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2012 22:40

Well it may not be, but people tend to get upset about how their money is being spent and so if one pays more tax, then one could feasibly feel more aggrieved by it's perceived misappropriation.

If it's the wasting of tax money, then this is really a very ineffective way to tackle it.

Or are you making no more than a moral judgment?

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:40

I want 4 or 5 but you will approve op as my dh is a high rate tax payer. not

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:40

I don't spend all day on the Internet! I'm quite happy here!

woollyideas · 05/03/2012 22:40

OP: Tax Credits

In April 2003, Tax Credits replaced:

Working Families Tax Credit, Disabled Persons Tax Credit
Childrens Tax Credit (the tax allowance which used to be Married Man's Tax Allowance)

HTH
Yawn...

woollyideas · 05/03/2012 22:41

^from Inland Revenue website, OP, but I expect you know best.
Off to feed goat now.
Goodnight.

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:42

shame

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:42

That'll learn ya!!

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:43
Confused
CreepyWeeBrackets · 05/03/2012 22:44

This is how my goat used to get free dinners

HTH.

I need to walk my unicorns now.

Synyster · 05/03/2012 22:45

I love the way the op thanks people who agree with her and accuses those who don't of jumping on the bandwagon....
pot calling kettle springs to mind, seeing as this is yet another jumping on the bandwagon benefit bashing thread

MissVerinder · 05/03/2012 22:45

Thanks wooly that was going to keep me up. I used to fill those forms in all the time.

LadyLazyLongLegs · 05/03/2012 22:45

woolly, I was referring to the WFTC which originally replaced married couples tax allowance.

OP posts:
LadyLazyLongLegs · 05/03/2012 22:46

and Wooly there was no need for you you will know best comment. Very rude

OP posts:
petitema · 05/03/2012 22:46

Thanks wooly, if I get my goat I can rest easy. Grin

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:47

Oh wooly you are rude, honestly daaaaarling. meh.

MissVerinder · 05/03/2012 22:48

But then, LLLL you would have claimed Income Support/IB/Jobseekers and not even bothered working way back when there were no tax credit type benefits (if you were intent, as you say, on having as menay children asyou liked)

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:49

Just out of curiosity... If your LO's grow up and decide they don't want to work but what 6 kids would you be ok with that? Honest question?

Swipe left for the next trending thread