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to think Tesco should fucking well PAY THEIR STAFF?

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QueenOfFlippingEverything · 16/02/2012 16:32

I know, I know, there have been threads about it already.

But this is so rage-inducing, I want THE WHOLE OF EVERYONE to know about it.

Jobcentre advert placed by Tesco for night shift staff. Who will be paid [drumroll] JSA (£67 a week) plus travel expenses.

Why the fucking fuck should Tesco get their staff for free? Why? Their profits last year were something like £3.5 billion last year!

I know who I think is taking the piss here, and its not the unemployed people who will be forced to work night shifts at Tesco for their £67 a week Angry

OP posts:
woollyideas · 19/02/2012 18:58

Working as an intern at The Guardian or a bank or in a fashion company is very, very different from being a night-time shelf-filler at Tesco. Actually I hate the idea of internships, too, but usually the interns are learning skills that are related to their chosen careers, which is utterly different from someone who has been made redundant, or who is sick or disabled, being forced to work in Tesco under the 'guise' of work experience.

ChickenLickn · 19/02/2012 19:14

When I started out, internships were paid. Considering how 'healthy' Tesco's profits are, I see no reason why this is not the case NOW.

No one should be forced to work unpaid.

Glitterknickaz · 19/02/2012 19:17

No wonder they like to turnover workfare staff quickly though, the more they get through the more £££ the govt pay them.

AmberLeaf · 19/02/2012 19:18

Reply I have recieved from Tesco customer services to my email stating I will not be shopping with them until they withdraw from workfare

Dear XXXXX

Thank you for your email regarding Tesco?s involvement with the Governments work experience scheme

At Tesco we take our responsibility as Britain's biggest private sector employer seriously. We are committed to playing our part to help tackle unemployment in these challenging times and are creating 7,000 new jobs this year, despite the difficult economic climate

At a time of record youth unemployment we are particularly committed to providing opportunities for young people. First and foremost this means providing jobs for young people; we employ over 70,000 people under the age of 25, or a quarter of our workforce. In addition, and in response to your question, we are participating in a government-led work experience scheme to help give young people valuable experience of the workplace. The young people taking part in this programme do not replace or substitute for our permanent staff and I am pleased to say that over 300 of them have so far gone on to get jobs with us

This builds on our strong track record of giving opportunities to the hardest to reach in society. We recruit on attitude, not qualifications, giving everyone the opportunity to get a job and to get on. Last month we opened our 40th Regeneration Partnership store, with a third of new jobs reserved for people who have been out of work for six months or more. These schemes have so far provided over 4,500 jobs for the long-term unemployed

We remain committed to doing what we can in these difficult times to providing opportunities and employment

I hope this clarifies our stance on this matter and thank you for taking the time and trouble to contact us
Kind regards

Lexy St Clair
Tesco Customer Service

Pretty much the same shite they've been copy+pasting on their FB page.

Glitterknickaz · 19/02/2012 19:19

Yeah cos they'll get up to £13,700 a head.... this is not altruistic

minimathsmouse · 19/02/2012 19:24

Has Cameron been having cosy chats with Murdoch again?
Grayling looks like a fascist bully boy who wouldn't look out of place in the BNP.

Poor Ken keeps putting his foot in it though.

Yes I read pg 6 and 7 earlier of that report, shocking. It would make far better sense to make investments that will provide jobs.

This money would be far better spent actively encouraging small businesses to grow and create employment, far better spent on proper retraining opportunities and far better spent on regeneration projects.

A4E seem to have made over £250 million but only have a 9% success rate at getting people into work. So is this money being well spent?

What's more this is a company that employs too few staff and has trouble with staff retention. Sound like real experts at employing people don't they?

minimathsmouse · 19/02/2012 19:26

AmberLeaf, that was the same reply I got yesterday. They are not even polite enough to answer specific questions are they.

funnyperson · 19/02/2012 19:36

Just adding in my voice to those here who think the workfare scheme and the lowered bar for return to work cross the boundaries of human decency and probably mean that the UK will no longer be able to call itself a welfare state.
How can a society which forces a person who has had a stroke, or who has terminal cancer to work below the minimum wage in a 'job' not of their choosing, call itself civilised? Surely it is better to have a lousy credit rating but look after the needy.

I feel sad as I think one of the best outcomes of the 2 wars was the social levelling which led to the will to create a welfare state to look after all who were needy regardless of income or social class.

I suppose we should be grateful that tescos isn't the workhouse, or does that come next, when the workfare slaves cant pay their rent or buy their food.

AmberLeaf · 19/02/2012 19:59

Nope Mini, id rather have had no reply than that TBH!

Influx of happy tesco workers posting on their FB page at the mo!

molepom · 19/02/2012 20:43

That's because all the unhappy comments are either being deleted or banned from posting Amber. Bastards banned me last night and I am still waiting for a reason why.

I have noticed they have changed their terms and conditions to posting on the page though. Funny that.

PeahenTailFeathers · 19/02/2012 20:43

No, I don't think Tesco is using Workfare to replace permanent jobs. Tesco is abusing the system to get free labour when it suits eg over Christmas (when they'd normally have to pay temporary workers) with no intention of providing permanent employment. Weasel words. I can't believe they are still too cocky to withdraw from the scheme. Like most people on this thread, I'll be shopping at Sainsburys this week.
At the risk of becoming a troll, I've just sent this email to Chris Grayling because that Torygraph article made me so angry. It is quite insulting, but then he is insulting tens of thousands of people and he needs to realise this:

Dear Mr Grayling

I read the article in the Telegraph newspaper that quoted your views on the Workfare programme with great interest (through a link from the Mumsnet website).

The part I found most interesting was your statement about Sir Terry Leahy. You alleged that because Sir Leahy has, in the past, stacked shelves and mopped floors for Tesco, there should be no complaints from either people forced to provide unpaid labour for Tesco or the general public about the Workfare scheme. You referred to these complaints as "job snobbery".

I find it insulting and patronising that you would make the comparison with what Sir Leahy has done. His work was carried out during his school holidays decades ago. More pertinently, he was paid for this work. You, for some reason, think young jobseekers should work for free. Given that many of the Tesco jobs advertised were for menial jobs, were three or four weeks in duration and were over the Christmas period and that Tesco did not advertise for temporary seasonal staff as it normally would, the only conclusion is that these young people were being taken advantage of and used as free labour. The guaranteed job interview at the end of the placement was just salt in the wound. There were no real jobs to offer.

As a government minister, you must always check the veracity of what you say. Your comments were indefensibly misleading and I think you should be embarrassed at how easily your propaganda (that is the only word that fits) can be disproven and dismissed by simply checking the facts.

It would be far too optimistic of me to expect you to change and for you to consider using the truth instead of mindlessly reciting your bigoted Party line, but I would be interested in receiving an explanation as to why you were so blatantly inaccurate; whether this was a genuine mistake (although this would make you foolish) or whether you were intentionally deceitful (which is worse).

I hope to receive an answer.

molepom · 19/02/2012 20:45

I know it's about the NHS reform but theres another potest being organised. Wink here

molepom · 19/02/2012 20:51

atchooo

DementedHousewife · 19/02/2012 20:54

Have tweeted that link molepom, thanks.

NunOnTheRun · 19/02/2012 22:34

Peahentailfeather - superb letter Thanks

woollyideas · 19/02/2012 22:37

Someone may have already posted this but in case they haven't...

Boycott Workfare have sent out the following message via Facebook. If you know anyone who has been subject to workfare (I know some posters above said they had teenage children who were made to do this) please get in touch with them.

Here's their message:
Lots of media in touch asking to speak to people who have been subject to workfare, tell everyone you know, Contact us anonymously: [email protected]

NunOnTheRun · 19/02/2012 22:51

The following does have a Tesco connection (pls bear with me Smile )

"London's homeless could be forced to move as far as Hull" - Guardian 18/2/12
www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/feb/18/london-homeless-forced-move-hull
Undoubtedly the homeless persons statistics will be further boosted, following the recent draconian changes to the Housing Benefit regulations.

Let's take a trip down memory lane:...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Porter#Homes_for_votes_scandal
^ "....Another vital part of 'Building Stable Communities' was the removal of homeless voters and others who lived in hostels and were perceived less likely to vote Conservative, such as students and nurses, from the City of Westminster...."

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/biography-of-shirley-porter-lays-bare-her-abuse-of-power-471040.html
^ "...As leader of Westminster(*), she was feted as the leading light at one of Mrs Thatcher's flagship councils.But all her achievements were overshadowed by the hysterical events she instigated after Labour's near-victory in the 1986 council elections. In an attempt to "save her empire" , she embarked on a campaign to drive the homeless (perceived as Labour supporters) out of eight key marginal wards to make way for probable Tory voters. Her "Homes For Votes" policies saw the sale of social housing to middle class yuppies, and the housing of 122 homeless families in two tower blocks the council knew to be riddled with asbestos..."

() Can you tell what it is yet?*
Yup, none other than Tesco's heiress, Dame Shirley Porter.

I thank you.

TapselteerieO · 19/02/2012 23:03

Glitterknickaz good link about what the DWP say employers get out of Workfare.

BadDayAtTheOrifice · 19/02/2012 23:15

This is being discussed on radio 5 live now. He's still trying to say its voluntary!

minimathsmouse · 19/02/2012 23:21

Iv'e just noticed the Tesco advert on the right of the page, is there no escape from these corperate psychopaths.

blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2010/11/more-evidence-that-atos-origin.html

Atos tells women with breast cancer to get a job.

"A man suffering from ME was told "There's a big world out there, you know - you should go out and see some of it." how bloody callous.

I am going to write to Grayling in regard to the mismanagement of tax payer money and the damage this scheme will have on the economy. The exploitation of people too ill to work and the fact that I am livid over his comment about women causing unemployment figures to rise so dramatically. Isn't it Tory cuts that have disproportionately effected women.

TapselteerieO · 19/02/2012 23:24

I have seen Tesco and Boots ads on here since the Workfare debate has heated up, I think mn should review their advertisers, they wouldn't want to be profiting from slavery?

minimathsmouse · 19/02/2012 23:26

NunonTheRun, are these the same people, that Ian Duncan Smith said should move to where the work is, well there isn't much work in Hull.

MyNameIsInigoMontoya · 19/02/2012 23:41

Just chipping in with my support and to say well done, you've made Discussion of the day (finally!) so hopefully this will help to raise awareness further.

I am alternately Shock and Sad at what's being done and planned currently, both with workfare and especially the proposed disability changes.

carernotasaint · 19/02/2012 23:42

oh Fuck i didnt know that was gonna be on five live tonight. Will have to catch it tommorrow

ravenAK · 19/02/2012 23:53

You should. Grayling got handed his arse in a bag. It was lovely. Grin