to think Tesco should fucking well PAY THEIR STAFF?

[QueenOfFlippingEverything]

I know, I know, there have been threads about it already.

But this is so rage-inducing, I want THE WHOLE OF EVERYONE to know about it.

Jobcentre advert placed by Tesco for night shift staff. Who will be paid [drumroll] JSA (£67 a week) plus travel expenses.

Why the fucking fuck should Tesco get their staff for free? Why? Their profits last year were something like £3.5 billion last year!

I know who I think is taking the piss here, and its not the unemployed people who will be forced to work night shifts at Tesco for their £67 a week

Ha, advert's been poofed? Well I have a screenshot of the original. It reads:

TESCO NIGHT SHIFT
Job No: BSD/27442
SOC Code: 0

Wage JSA+EXPENSES
Hours TBC
Location EAST ANGLIA IP32
Duration Permanent
Date posted 09 February 2012
Pension details No details held

Description
Interviews as part of SBWA, dates and times to be arranged by the store.Contact Amanda Evans at Tesco.

How to apply
For further details about job reference BSD/27442, please telephone Jobseeker Direct on 0845 6060 234. Lines are open [screenshot ends]

molepom, I did try, I think they should have the decency to answer, their silence speaks volumes

It does doesn't it

I want to start something but I dont know what or how..my local MP's made his position clear to me the last time I emailed him on the benefit reform so I'm not expecting support from him. (labour)

One one hand i sort of think people do get stuck in a rut when out of work, and its a downward spiral so some work experience can sometime be a good thing. I do think People take the piss out of the dole sometimes aswell. I know a fair few.

However that is total exploitation and border line slave labour. They are working and not getting paid minimum wage. Would it be around 1.50/2.00 quid an hour? if its a full time week? It is no help whatsoever for good, honest decent people who have lost work through no fault of their own. If a Company Manager got made redundant and was made to stack shelves, how would that help?

There is a No Confidence petition on You Gov. epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/5052

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/5052

On Newsnight last night they talked about how many "permanent" jobs had been created
but made no mention of the number of hours
so a 6 hours per week single night shift counts as a "permanent" job and the bloodsuckers get their commission

Please could all of you who are UK citizens write to your MPs and complain.
Every day.
And get your friends and family to.
Only a TIDAL WAVE of complaints will make it stop.

Interns and workfare are stopping those who want jobs from getting them.

this is going to be debated on Jeremy Vines show on Radio 2 this afternoon - i wonder if i will end up throwing the radio out of the window like i did when the banking bosses bonus was debated....? (im still seething at the twunt he had on that show...

Interns arn't. Thats complete bollocks.

How exactly are Interns working in a specific industry stopping people getting jobs?

Someone on fb also found an older job ad disgrace

KateSpade
because the politics, media, journalism and fashion industries are built on not paying any new entrants
which means they are CLOSED to all but those with rich families.

THe Guardian has dozens of unpaid staff
the BBC hundreds
the House of Commons thousands

they are real jobs that are not being paid

Tired, your link isnt working. Funny that. Almost as funny as the time the petition to the queen for her to withhold royal assesnt on the welfare reforms was hacked and stopped.

youarekidding completely agree with your comment about how this reduces the amount of money going towards NI, pensions etc. Further eroding the money we have as a country to spend on education, nhs, policing etc and probably part of the Tories plans to decimate our wonderful welfare system and the less people money have the more our economy will suffer.

No wonder there are more pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs - the majority of voters didn't vote these bastards in but they get to shaft us all.

I dont have a particularly rich family and im doing it.

I agree with the 'bankrolled students' comment, its something that infuriates me so much. Dont even get me started on the Prestigious London Universities.

But, Interns arn't Proper staff, they may be treated like it, but they deffinatly dont do the same work as an employed member of staff would.

And the bigger company you go, the more likely you'll just be making tea and answering phones.

I dont agree with that at all.

ec.europa.eu/eures/eures-searchengine/servlet/ShowJvServlet?lg=EN&pesId=58&uniqueJvId=HBH%2F25785 try it this way, sorry I am on my iPod, although I have posted links before, so not sure why it hasn't worked

Anti Tesco FB group here

I actually work nightshift stacking shelves, (not for tesco) and yeah, it's only stacking shelves but it can sometimes be back breaking! No way would I do it for £67 a week!! Not a chance!

Cae - would you be able to do it with a mental or physical disability? would you be able to do while undergoing agressive chemo for cancer?

The money or lack of it is an issue but there is a bigger issue at the heart of this..forcing people to work who are signed off work in the first place because THEY ARE NOT FIT TO WORK.

Have signed. Pity we can't bring about a motion of no confidence over Cameron's backing of Landsleys NHS bill, that might stand some chance of success.

Kate, you are being exploited because your boss knows how desperate you are to get on in the industry. I remember weeks of pattern cutting at Jeager and no job at the end of it, they just got the next unpaid worker in. .

I digress, unpaid workers will undermine the working rights of all workers. Capitalism works on the basis that Workers have the means to purchase good and services, this keeps the economy ticking over. This beast is something else, neo capitalism, neo liberalism which syphons off all the money at the top end of the economy. It doesn't matter where that income is derived, we have a decline in workers ability to purchase goods and services, so now governments are pouring money in through subsidies. Kate if you produce goods which have a value then you deserve to be paid otherwise your boss is actually taking money out of the economy, that effects all of us.

Sorry to ask another stupid question, i like things explained to me in lamens terms.

So, someone who has stopped working because of a disability, they are scrapping all that and making them workfare? Even if people are severly disabled?

No,there's no way you could do it with a physical disability etc, it's far too strenuous... I wouldn't expect anyone to either, I'm 5 months pregnant and I'm starting to find it difficult!! I'm all for unemployed people to get back into Working, but not by these means tbh.

Kate, I attempted an explanation of disability stuff on this thread at Thu 16-Feb-12 23:28:22, which might help.

Or it might be clear as mud!

minimathsmouse

oh, i know my boss is taking the piss out of me, i have designed goods for the company that went on to make him money. He takes the piss out of all his employee's and im probably the least taken the piss out of.

But, im thinking of it as a stepping stone onto other things and its in my best interests.
I have a reference to put down,
I have some great pieces for my portfolio
I have a years experience, which some jobs wont even let you apply without
I getting one on one experience from clothing business experts/photoshop experts, which to be honest i wouldnt get at uni.

However, i think if they stop internships, i think it would be worse for the economy, it would result in more people claiming unemployment benefits and i dont think it would open up that many more jobs either.

And, tbh after everyone looked at me shocked and ashamed after i said i was having a baby in the middle of my degree, i want to go back in on my high horse and knock the smile off my lecturer's face!

Basically Kate yes - to a degree.

This goes hand in hand with the ATOS assessments which are replacing medical assessments done by health professionals.

If you tick certain boxes like "being able to move your wheelchair indoors for 50 metres" you are deemed as able to move around as everyone else. This doesnt take into account curbs, hills, rough surfaces, how heavy your chair is, the fact that your arms are not designed to be used as legs etc etc etc or even the ability or lack of to go outside.

Now imagine you are that person in that chair...and you fail the assessments, taken by a person with no medical experience and without looking at your medical notes or supporting documention as if often the case..

You are now deemed fit to work, so you are moved onto either JSA or ESA...

While on these benefits you have to do the madatory placements or loose your benefits, if you are ESA and you do as you are told by the gov and go on these placements, you are also inadvertantly proving that you should be on JSA - wether you are medically fit or not!

You are on a workfare placement - usually in a warehouse or on a nightshift...

Now this is where it gets tricky...if you are on JSA, there is a time limit on how many weeks you have to do these placements. If you are on ESA and I wouldn't be surprised if Lower rate and Middle rate DLA are thrown into this too..there is no time limit. None. Unlimited.

You will be "working" for a company, in pain, against medical advice, making yourself worse in the long run for your benefit, which comes from the taxpayer.

If you are the head of a company, why would you employ someone to work when you can get the labour not only for free but get paid for it too by the government. So you slash your employees hours and bring in the free staff.

As a result, over time, there will be more people sick, unemployed due to redundancies, less money in the pot because of the hours slashed, but more coming out of the same pot to pay for the increase in tax credits, jsa, esa, housing, council tax and lets not get started on the affect this will have on the NHS. More money will also and is currently being spent on claiments appealing these fit for work assessments only to be told, they should never have been made fit to work in the first place.

Cae -- everyone will agree with you about getting the umemployed back into work. JSA claiments yes, by all means, but this policy is crossing the line by forcing those on ESA into work when they are not ready or medically fit (insurance anyone?).