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To be pretty upset that ds1 has been assessed as overweight and not to find any of the 'Top Tips' relevant to us?

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lecce · 31/01/2012 20:19

Ds1 (4.10) was weighed and measured at school and we received a letter today telling us he is on the 91st BMI centile and therefore is just into the overweight category.

Of course I am upset. I had no idea there was a problem. I suppose he does look a little more 'solid' than some children, indeed some children I see do look particularly tiny. Ds has no rolls of fat, no double chin and his tummy still sticks out a bit (only noticeable when naked) and you can see and feel his ribs.

The last time he was weighed and measured (about 2 years ago) he was on the 75th centile for height and the 50+ for weight - so longer than wide. However, now these seem to have swapped over and he isn't so tall but appears to be chunkier.

I have always considered his diet to be good. The booklet the NHS have sent is full of tips about cutting down on biscuits, crisps etc but we very rarely have these. We don't keep biscuits in the house, or crisps. He loves all fruit and mostly snacks on that or oat cakes but he doesn't snack a huge amount at all. We may put peanut butter on the oatcake, but spread it thinly. Puddings are fruit, alone or with Greek yoghurt. About once every six weeks or so we bake flapjacks or fruit muffins. We visit MacD's once every six weeks or so. Dh cooks all our meals from scratch - pasta sauces etc. I noticed today he'd put a little butter on the potatoes and carrots - should we not be doing that at all?

Among my friends, I am considered on the strict side regarding food but, in fact, nothing is off limits but it is limited, iyswim. His diet has a few 'naughty' things in it but is basically pretty good and very low on processed food. He only drinks water with the occassional glass of milk or carton drink when we are out - a couple of times a month.

He walks to school, goes to the playground for 30-40mins every day, has swimming lessons once a week, dance lesson once a week and uses his scooter, balance bike or legs Grin both days of the weekend pretty much without fail. He is not a total whirlwind, like some boys his age, but that is just his nature and he's certainly no couch potato either.

I just feel so down about this - like we have let him down. The letter is saying about how he is likely to suffer from health problems and be overweight as an adult and I could just cry. Yet looking through the tips, we already do pretty much everything they suggest. I really didn't think young children were supposed to follow a 'low-fat' diet, I though it was about balance but we've obviously got it wrong Sad.

Would love some suggestions from anyone about what we could do about this.

Btw, I am not overweight (slightly under) and dh is a little but he is ridiculously tall so hides it well! We all eat the same food, pretty much, though not the same portion sizes, obviously.

OP posts:
duchesse · 01/02/2012 16:34

belgo, my son did! He was unnatural though. He could carry me when he was 8. People think he spends hours in the gym even now. If by gym they mean "sitting in his bed on his laptop" then yes he does. He looks rather like different name's DS with less rowing. Although in fairness he does climb and do judo.

MeltedChocolate · 01/02/2012 16:34

*at all.

Really you took way too much offence! Some times people can't see it. Some times it's just about personal build. I would just want to be sure.

When my HV told me DS was heavy I checked with family and friends and the HV herself just to be sure it wasn't me just unable to see it.

duchesse · 01/02/2012 16:36

I do agree that a lot of people expect their pre-pubescent children to match them in build, which is insane as children's BMIs are supposed to be a lot lower than adults'. (17 is perfectly adequate for a 7yo)

Polly2211 · 01/02/2012 16:37

These letters make me so cross! I had the same with my daughter, when are some people going to realise that not everyone is the same build and nor should they be.....the world would be a pretty dull place. Some people are totally healthy but weigh a little heavier than others. In a months time he'll probably get a bit taller and put him in the perfect weight bracket. Please don't worry it sounds like you're doing a great job with his lifestyle! :)

differentnametoposthere · 01/02/2012 16:37

I get it, I do - but the BMI is a very crude indicator and shouldn't be used as a blanket measure - every child is different.

DD1 is also technically "overweight" - she plays hockey, netball, running, various athletics and wants to take up the same sport as DS, she's 13. She too will no doubt be classed as clinically obese by the BMI.

DD2 is 9 and teeny tiny. Very fine made. She does the same range of sports (well as many as she can for her age) and eats more than DD1 but she's tiny, and light.

She is off the bottom of the lines on the red books she's so teeny.

So what? They're all different.

And yes, he is handsome, isn't he Grin

MeltedChocolate · 01/02/2012 16:39

He is, and I am young, and single Wink .....

I tease of course :o

differentnametoposthere · 01/02/2012 16:40
Grin
margoandjerry · 01/02/2012 16:40

But by the same token, my 2 year old son probably has a higher body fat percentage than my daughter who is 5. He is still definitely a toddler with wrist wrinkles and chubby thighs. My daughter had those at 2 but doesn't at 5.

margoandjerry · 01/02/2012 16:41

Sorry, my reply was to Duchesse, the thread moved on while I wasn't looking which is not allowed.

differentnametoposthere · 01/02/2012 16:44
Grin

I must apologise too but these threads really get my goat - in our case, it was so clearly ridiculous it was just laughable, but if DS hadn't been so secure in himself, or I doubted my parenting, getting a letter like that could have caused a lot of angst.

ChasTittyBeltUp · 01/02/2012 16:45

I don't understand why they do it at all if everyone here is in agreement that it's a load of codswallop! I mean...MN is a pretty good cross section of society not everyone can be wrong can they?

Are they not looking int changing it by now?

MeltedChocolate · 01/02/2012 16:48

Chas I disagree completely that MN is a good cross section

BUT

I am sure their main aim is to re educate parents that over feed all the time. What I don't understand is why there is not someone in the school who is deliberately looking out for the kids that are obviously over weight rather than doing the daft letter thing!

margoandjerry · 01/02/2012 16:49

I think in answer to the OP, BMI can only ever be a rough and ready measure. I'm sure it's a useful indicator at the extremes but in the middle it's clearly unreliable.

You only have to think about how it's calculated to see its shortcomings. It's weight divided by height squared. But our bodies are not in 2D, they are in 3D. OK you wouldn't use height cubed because that would be a good way to represent a 5ft 6 inch cuboid person! But squared is just a very rough and ready way of taking into account the solidness of our bodies and it's not a very accurate way. It can't take into account that X has broad shoulders but is quite short or that Y is average height with a head that is too big to get hats to fit (and Y would be me, Blush - I had to have a man's mortar board at graduation day because the women's ones didn't fit). We all know people who are tall and fine boned and generally reedy, if not weedy, and people who are tall and with big hands, feet, shoulders, everything) - those people ought to be in the same BMI band but will have very different natural healthy weights for them.

Anyway, if you are leading a healthy lifestyle and don't think your son has a problem, there's your answer.

MeltedChocolate · 01/02/2012 16:50

NB Different - I get angry and argumentative on so many types of threads. I have decided many times that MN is bad for me and yet I am still here :o

whomovedmychocolate · 01/02/2012 16:50

We haven't been asked for permission yet either. Hmm

But I weigh more than my size suggests - I'm not tall but at 10st I will be a size 10 max. Perhaps some people just are hefty but not lardy?

Chandon · 01/02/2012 16:52

I think troisgarcons asked why everybody signs these consent forms.

I did not as I do not want the government to collect data on how much my child weighs and what I feed him.

My children will not be weighed and measured and patronised by the government if I can avoid it.

OP stp fretting, just ignore and trust your instincts.

margoandjerry · 01/02/2012 16:53

LOL at melted chocolate. I went off in a huff for a few years and then came back and nobody noticed

I think we all need to remember about a lot of these public health messages that they are aimed at people who really do not know what they are doing and have no sense. That thing about not leaving your baby in a car seat for more than 90 minutes? Does not mean half way through a two hour drive you have to wake your baby up and shake him out or he will be permanently deformed. It means, don't use your car seat as a permanent substitute for a bed. But all the well meaning, careful parents get paranoid and all the ones who never bothered to buy a cot don't hear the message anyway.

Xmasbaby11 · 01/02/2012 16:55

He is fine - these charts are just a guidance, and everything you say paints the picture of a very healthy little boy. Please try not to worry - you sound like an excellent parent.

TheHumancatapult · 01/02/2012 17:06

Ds2 age 1-5 would been classed overweight now age 14 more fat on a beanpole

ByTheWay1 · 01/02/2012 17:18

BMI is not a reliable indicator for kids..... my youngest is 97th percentile for height and 65th for weight - somehow she came out as overweight!!!! there is NO flesh on her bones - you can see every rib, every ridge of her spine, she eats like a horse - but never sits down - the school nurse LAUGHED when she saw the letter and put it in the bin!

stressedandfedup · 01/02/2012 17:28

I work in a school health team and everyone thinks weighing and measuring is pointless. We've had staff cuts and its soul destroying having to waste so much time on this while child protection work gets left undone.
Any data obtained is meaningless as many children who are obviously over or underweight don't get done because parents refuse consent

Angelico · 01/02/2012 17:33

Speaking as one of the teachers I think the weighing thing can be valuable but the trouble is that it requires common sense. Thus people with perfectly healthy children on good diets are weeping blood over these letters (chill out and use your noggin!!!) and the trog mother of the twenty stone child opts out of weighing him and keeps feeding him KFC for breakfast (and no, I am not even joking).

ChasTittyBeltUp · 01/02/2012 17:41

I suggest that everyone opt out. If a child is obviously too heavy...then the teachers can address it with the relevant agency no? Thus freeing them up to do child protection work that is more important.

I think most parents know if their child is overweight...and will seek help....those that do not are more likely to be struggling in other areas anyway and possibly need an outside body's assistance...am I wrong?

ChasTittyBeltUp · 01/02/2012 17:44

Angelico that's why I think that those with any ken should opt out too and the whole sorry idea would be scrapped...WHY would anyone...agree to their child being weighed when they know there is no problem? Yet as you say it's those people who mostly agree.

I think that if as you say the problem families opt out then there should be contact with SS.

mothmagnet · 01/02/2012 17:55

Thanks Duchesse and Different for the advice, I was worried they pork out during puberty, but it makes sense that he is due a growth spurt and his foot size hasn't changed for over a year, so I will keep an eye on that.

Different, your son's photo proves your point very well Smile

The BMI charts can be a good guideline - I guess if they weren't there maybe some of us would be wondering where in general our weight ought to be?
However, they (and the outside pressure I feel from others) have made me doubt my own instincts about ds's weight.

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