People who are late for school every day or almost every day.

[MrsJAlfredPrufrock]

Why don't you just get up 15 mins earlier?

Well the other parents don't seem to mind. They still say hello, and invite me and dd to their ps for dinner and I still have drinks with them from time to time. And I still natter when I pick dd up, as long as I am not late...

And my point is that it is not their business why I am late. So if they chose to judge then so be it.

Bloody hell Pavlov. Do you really not bother how much you must piss off the teachers who are trying to get a lesson started? What a shitty attitude. Anyone can occasionally be late, but most people care about how rude they appear to others by being late. How does your boss like that approach to life?

No because the class register does not start til 9am and every time i take her into the class the children are still sorting their coats out and the teachers still yapping. If they were all sat down waiting for her I would be more concerned about it.

And To be fair, I do the school run once a week.

Re my boss. Well I work in a job where I can be like that. I manage my own hours and I work very well within my hours. As long as my timekeeping does not affect my colleagues or my work, a few minutes is not so big a deal.

So you only do it once a week and you still manage to be 'regularly this kind of late.' How hard can it be?

I refer you to my earlier question about work.

(Unless you are dealing with some real difficulties involving illness/sn, in which case I will wind my neck in, obviously.)

Can I book another one onto your bootcamp please LeQ. if you could just cure DH of his urgent need to do something random at the exact time we should be leaving ( like find a cd/cable/random gadget/ thing we really dont need right this second) I would be eternally grateful and will do your maths homework for ever more

Fair enough. It may not effect your current working arrangements.

I still think not managing to get children to school on time without mitigating reasons is wrong for loads of reasons. Like people who let their dogs crap on the street, or drop litter. It's all a big 'my convenience is more important than yours.'

what is this obsession between equating lateness at school with lateness at work?

you get paid for going to work. am I missing something here?

Haven't read all the thread so don't know if this has been mentioned but we take the register at 9.00am and then close it. If anyone arrives after that, the statistics will show lateness/absence. They have to manually sign in at the office with time and date. It all goes on the records folks.

I could give you all sorts of justifiable reasons for my slovenliness. But the reality is I am on a permanent 5 min behind schedule time. Always have been. Have a real issue with waiting I guess. But hey we all have our flaws as well as our strengths. Like her homework is always done, on time and with care.

baskingseals I was answering a specific question about my boss's attitude to lateness. That is what I was equating it to.

Its a statement of attitude and organisational skills tbh. If you can't manage to get to something that is as important as school on time, that's says something about your life skills to me. And the teachers get paid (by our taxes) to teach effectively. But they can't do it if people can't get their shit in one sock (as my DH so charmingly puts it.) Also, if you regularly hit timings at worn and not for the school run, then why not? Surely your kids education should be on a par with the importance of your working day.

Just do every fecking the night before and get up at a reasonable time

I don't understand how it happens regularly. Just don't get it at all. Traffic, car breakdown, illness...could happen to anyone. Just not several times a week.

no not you pavlov
it's everybody else who thinks that if you bring your children late to school, they will be late for work in their adult lives.

please enlighten me as to why most of the posters on this thread think that this will happen

every fecking thing.

I always feel dreadfully sorry for my neighbour's kids, they are always sitting waiting in the car on the drive from about 8.30, they generally leave about 9.15 to take the kids to school, it is a bit too far for the kids to walk. They are late every day and it's not because the kids aren't ready, it's because their Mum can't be arsed to get out of bed any earlier.

What do you mean you have an issue with waiting?

For example, when I was at uni, I would always get a train home across country to see my mother. I would always always, get there like to mins to spare, and run like a mad woman across the concourse to get the train. I would time it do. And on occasions. I would miss the train. But rarely. Who knows. But it did not affect my life. I would never buy a ticket that restricted me to a certain outbound train.

But, this not not about me personally is it? There have been hundreds of posts already so my characters is not in question. I have so much to offer my children, and this one defect of mine. Well it is minor in the grand scale of life. My children have two parents to learn from. A I already said.

I am clearly raising worriers. My DC (DS in particular) would explode with stress at the thought of being properly late - he only just manages to deal with the concept of eating into the 10 minutes between when we aim to get there (8:00am) and when he is supposed to be there (8:10am). Never mind consideration for teachers, others, etc - for the sake of my own child's stress levels I have to be on time, and I have to hustle DD so that she is too (she would hate to be late, but hasn't really linked cause (dawdling) and effect (being late) for herself as yet).

For those who are habitually late - does it not worry/stress your DC at all, even if you are not bothered [curious]?

No. But it really really bothers Dh.

Pavlov - that I can imagine.

Not yummy. I normally get up at 5 am btw.

DD4 is on the bell or lateish every day and got a certificate for fab attendance last year.

I was always late for school until I was old enough to get there by myself and always found it an upsetting experience. My mother has a somewhat flexible attitude to time and, in retrospect, she also had 3 small, chaotic children to sort out. However it has resulted in all three of us being alarmingly punctual. The constant shame of being late every single day, with all the attendant tellings off and eye rolling, means that we are always ridiculously early for everything. I hope my DD has a more relaxed (though still punctual!) attitude as she grows up - it's good to be on time,but not good to be so panicked and desperate that you're always racing about like a crazed fiend, only to arrive n hour early anyway.