undercover police fathering children with women they're spying on is treachery beyond belief.

[alicethehorse]

Story here Undercover police had children with activists

"Two undercover police officers secretly fathered children with political campaigners they had been sent to spy on and later disappeared completely from the lives of their offspring ...

"In both cases, the children have grown up not knowing that their biological fathers ? whom they have not seen in decades ? were police officers who had adopted fake identities to infiltrate activist groups. Both men have concealed their true identities from the children's mothers for many years"

What a monumental abuse of trust

It also says "Last month eight women who say they were duped into forming long-term intimate relationships of up to nine years with five undercover policemen started unprecedented legal action."

And these people are activists trying to save the world, not terrorists trying to blow it up!

It takes two to foxtrot tango as they say.

But it's disgusting behaviour and morally wrong although the women do need to take some of the blame for having unprotected sex too.

Troisgarcons already said it...nothing more to add.

The man had the information, the woman didn't. I "opened my legs" (charming expression BTW) and had a baby. It is in a long-term, committed relationship. Just like these women thought they were and weren't. Of course, that could happen in any case but at least my money isn't funding it.

Sorry but the behaviour of the policemen is cynical beyond belief.

These people were not terrorists!

And sleeping with people on an undercover operation is strictly forbidden. The policemen knew what they were doing, they weren't undercover from themselves!

The women were duped into thinking there were in relationships, when in fact they were being spied on.

That's not the kind of country I want to live in.

these people are activists trying to save the world, not terrorists trying to blow it up

ALF are terrorists and shoudl be dealt with accordingly.

Presumably the women thought they were in relationshiups with the men, who then vanished. They were lied to. The Police Officers need to take responsibility for their children.

troisgarcons - those "traumatised" women thought they were in a long-term relationship. Perhaps you should re-read the article and linked articles because as it is your answer sounds just a tad ignorant.

That's not the kind of country I want to live in.

can I help you with a visa to somewhere else?

I have to say I was of the opinion 'well why didn't the women use contraception' until I read some of the relationships were up to 9 years.

That's just beyond words

Yeah because having a baby with someone you've been with for nine years, who turns out to have lied about everything and been using you for cover and promptly vanishes from the child's life forever is exactly like not knowing the name of the ONS

If that girl who pretended to be a boy to shag her friends is being prosecuted those policemen should be too.

Excuse me, but I also had a baby with someone I'd not been with very long.

Several years later my lovely DP is here next to me and my lovely DS is asleep downstairs. I knew I was taking a chance to have a baby with a man I hadn't been with for long, but it felt right (and we've been proved right).

A the time I considered the possible risks of having a baby with someone I hadn't known that long - but not one of them was that he might be spying on me and would bugger off when his assignment was over!

If that girl who pretended to be a boy to shag her friends is being prosecuted those policemen should be too.

If i'm not mistaken that girl was after under-age girls?

" the women do need to take some of the blame for having unprotected sex too."

They were in relationships with the men.

I would be pretty traumatised if a man I thought was on a long-term relationship with me and had a child was a) lying to me b) had a WIFE somewhere else c) hated everything I stood for d) had no intention of supporting his child e) had a state-sanctioned way of escaping his financial, moral and parental duties.

I'm horrified.

"Dealt with accordingly" surely doesn't mean sleeping with them for years.

Me too MrsTerryPratchett

Of course they need to take some of the blame.

I don't see how someone can know someone for 9 years without getting a hint.

These were women who were in relationships for months and years! One undercover policeman even married an activist.

How misogynistic do you have to be to want to blame the women for being conned, lied to and abandoned.

The police personnel were undercover, using a state provided identity. I dare say the state picked up the bill (as usual) for the raising of the child. It's a shit job, but I have to say, I'd rather be paying damages to the police for being forced into prostitution coerced into sexual behaviour with women they probably wouldnt touch with a barge pole IRL. Very ikky and not reflecting well on the establishemtn. But spys have always used sexual means to infiltrate. Quite a lot of information recovered during WW2 woudlnt have been gained if there weren't sexual spys placed in high places.

So the security of the country, and millions of citizens? or your moral high ground?

I know which is preferable.

foglike your last comment is so ridiculous I won't stoop to arguing with it.

Feel free not to argue with it.

Not everything is as black and white as it seems.

These policeman could have also been used have you thought of that?

And that's even more ridiculous! The police were strictly prohibited from having sex on the job.

They absolutely abused their positions and the trust of the women they were with.

troisgarcon I don't sanction this. "the security of the country, and millions of citizens" bollocks. How can you equate this with the fight against HITLER and the genocide of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. Utter shit.