undercover police fathering children with women they're spying on is treachery beyond belief.

[alicethehorse]

Story here Undercover police had children with activists

"Two undercover police officers secretly fathered children with political campaigners they had been sent to spy on and later disappeared completely from the lives of their offspring ...

"In both cases, the children have grown up not knowing that their biological fathers ? whom they have not seen in decades ? were police officers who had adopted fake identities to infiltrate activist groups. Both men have concealed their true identities from the children's mothers for many years"

What a monumental abuse of trust

Trois garcons - as I understand it, these were not 'terrorists', but environmental campaigners engaged in peaceful and legitimate protest. The mothers were not having one night stands where 'they didn't bother to get the name of the bloke', but were in relationships with people they believed to share their values. It is clear that the undercover officers obtained the consent of [these women] to sexual intercourse by deceit - isn't that assault?

Read again, as will I, Worra...'18 months', 'short-lived', and 'just a year into his deployment'...Can't see in report where after 9 YEARS a child was concieved?

Hold on a minute, we're talking about hippy activists here, not armed terrorists or enemies spied on in a war situation.

9 years? prohibited from having sex?

oh my sides split

We're hardly talking the "security of the country" - they were infiltrating environmental and anti-capitalist groups. At most we're talking about protecting profits/property.

There's nothing like reading a headline and jumping in with both feet is there motherofallhangovers.

Your view is opposed to mine and mine is opposed to yours.

troisgarcons - yes, prohibited (supposedly) from having sex with women they were spying on. I doubt they were banned from sleeping with their wives at home.

I have not idea what you mean by that. I've read the article.

Oh right lost I'm lost now

Did you read the bottom part?

And I would suspect the PC's were single.

These coppers are obviously needed to pay child support but sex isn't a crime.

Lambert was married during his secret mission, which continued until 1988.

Not single. Who's not reading the article now?

So one was...what about the other 7?

Having sex isn't a crime.

Trois...get me that visa I might just need it.

Bear in mind that the article talks about two policeman, 2 out of how many? There are not so good people in all occupations.

Mark Kennedy was also married.

They have infiltrated Greenpeace, Globalise Resistance and Reclaim the Streets - not quite terrorists.

If these 'activists' were being investigated, what were they doing to warrant an operation of this proportion??

It's always best to leave a thread when it gets personal.....

Collects visa and heads for exit before ALF kick off.

Anyway, who said they had sex?? Maybe they used turkey basters! Who knows?

Foglike - obtaining consent to sexual intercourse by deceit is a crime though, isn't it?

Hulababy - 2 out of 8 police spies we know about. That's a pretty high percentage and suggests there is something fundamentally wrong with this operation.

F*cking hell I was in Greenpeace and CND, maybe they should have had sex with me under false pretences and knocked me up.

'skanks' - charming Ever crossed your mind that some MNers might be involved with some of the groups that were infiltrated?

Mark Kennedy the slimy fucker was married with children.

What do they do?

Greenpeace: "We defend the natural world and promote peace by investigating, exposing and confronting environmental abuse, and championing environmentally responsible solutions"

Globalise Resistance: "Anti globalisation organisation criticises corporate power. Provides newsletter, background briefings and details of protests and action."

Reclaim the streets: not sure if they exist anymore, their old website says "A direct action network for global and local social-ecological revolution(s) to transcend hierarchical and authoritarian society, (capitalism included), and still be home in time for tea..."

WorraLiberty it's ALL a conspiracy I tell you...bleedin' NEWSpapers, and serious journalism, will all be chippy wrapping tomorrow.

Don't believe everything on MN you read, I'm sticking to the Chronicles of Narnia, naice tales of a mystical land with talking animals...whad'ya mean it's a Christian analogy?

Remind me to tell you my 'cop' story sometime though.