To think that quoting past threads/quiches on MN does not prove you aren't a troll?

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You know when someone says 'name changed but not a troll - missing toaster, poo troll etc'. It doesn't really prove anything, does it? Any lurkers could read all that and still be a troll of some sort, no?

Am bored, can you tell?

you're right though. Anyone could say "pom bear, penguins, cube of poo". I haven't even been on here that long but those things are always talked about and are in the classics bit.

I am also bored.

I agree. All you need to do is scan a couple of topics in Classics to equip yourself with the necessary keywords. Proves nothing.

If I even name changed mine would be

NC (would do clarkson/ hates needles)

Still don't think anyone would remember. Most
People here call me Kanyo or Kayana anyway

I reckon most trolls are bored regulars anyway.

anyone can be a troll. Even a long term well trusted member could be a troll.

I've told this story before but I will tell it again as there has been a development.

I moderate on another website - a community type site with message boards and games and a realtime chat facility. Just after I became a moderator I discovered quite by coincidence that a long-term, well trusted member who had previously been a mod herself had what was suspected to be two accounts. On doing a lot more digging (I had to be certain I was right because of how well known she was etc) it transpired that she actually had had four personas on the site. One of them was her, who she really is etc, but the other three all had or had had severe illnesses/disabilities, and, worst of all, one of them had died and her death had been announced on the message boards of the site, causing a lot of upset to users who had befriended her, some of whom had formed quite close friendships with her.

So I banned all of them, but one of her personas she kept up on twitter because it had some other followers...

Occasionally I would look at this persona's twitter feed, she seemed to be doing normal things, but she also was frequently in and out of hospital, had surgeries, was very ill and then recovered etc. Tbh I was expecting her to die, because it just seemed to be heading that way. Then this weekend I was bored and had a look to see if she was still there, hadn't looked for a while, and from a couple of weeks back there are all these messages saying "RIP @) so it would appear this persona too has been killed off leaving some upset people behind.

I have since learned that she also did the same on another site and created a persona whom she killed off.

Talking to her in her normal persona she seems normal enough, and of all the people to be trolls I wouldn't have had her down as one.

Some people are just bloody sick.

I have read your story before wannabe, it is so chilling. Especially as she has carried on the persona on twitter

That is creepy, wannabe

it is horrendous getorf. And there's really very little that can be done, because once someone dies it's kind of frowned upon to accuse them of faking their own death, even if it's true.

I was astonished when a long term MNer was banned for sockpuppetry.

Just goes to show that even someone with a pretty cast iron reputation can get up to silly mind games.

You can't trust anyone, really.

wannabe thats so freaky! did she ever question why she was banned from the site you moderated?

Faking pregnancies and having stillborns happens very frequently on one forum, odd.

is sock puppetery where you are another poster agreeing with yourself type thing?

how are these people exposed though salmonskin ... oh my god faking stillborns? words fail me.

WannaBe Some people should stick to writing a novel.

If they don't come back to update or fake bump pictures/pictures of stillborns taken off the net etc. Very sad

"I reckon most trolls are bored regulars anyway"

I agree, I wonder if any well known regulars will own up to stirring it up a bit?

scuzy yes. when she was banned the original her sent me an email saying she realized why she'd been banned because she had logged into this other member's account (while she was in hospital) to check her messages for her, or something, and while she understood her ban could we still keep the other (current at the time) member's account active as she felt the site was her only source of support and friendship. Meanwhile her other persona sent a message to the site admins through the contact us link on the site saying similar - that her friend had logged in on her behalf and would we reconsider her banning.

If you hover over someone's email address you can see which IP address they've emailed from, and the messages that come to us through the contact us link include the IP address too. Both email and message had come from the same IP address even though one claimed to be in London and the other in Nottingham - they were both in Nottingham, where the original poster lives.

I was stunned by that too GetOrf (if I'm thinking of the same one). But in that case part of me couldn't help but feel a bit sorry for her, that she was in such a bad place that she felt she had to do that, when she seemed to be a liked and respected poster.

At the time I actually thought that one or the other would stir up quite a fuss since they were both well known/liked. But I think what stopped them from doing so is the fact that the original member is actually who she says she is, has quite a high profile in the VI community, is quite proactive in campaigning for disability rights etc, and making a fuss would potentially have exposed her, which is why I think she went quietly.

This thread is making my head hurt. I keep forgetting that people lie. Thanks for the reminder

wannaBe that reminds me of a person on a forum I go on. She created a whole lie about how she had young children and was dying from Cervical cancer. It got to the point where people befriended her and even sent her money to help cover the costs. A few months later her "husband" joined the site to tell people she died.

A couple of years later and she joins again as someone else. She was only found out because another member noticed similiarities in her pictures and then the Mods/Admins did some digging.

GetOrf - who are you talking about and what is sock pupperty.

Hugharssssssssss did exactly what you're talking abut OP.

Sorry but what has quiche got to do with it?

wannabe I wish there had been a moderator taking as much trouble as you on a local forum I used to frequent. It all started amicably enough but after a while there appeared to be two factions who always violently disagreed with each other - one side seeming to have more supporters than the other.

I was in neither faction really but one day light-heartedly asked one of the posters if they were X's sockpuppet as I did slightly suspect but not enough to be sure. Anyway, this seemed to kick off general suspicion and some people began to watch very carefully to try to catch others out. The so-called moderator didn't seem prepared to act but after a while the master puppetteer made enough mistakes that it became obvious he was running several different personas. It all got a bit messy and acrimonious and eventually the forum was just closed down as it couldn't function properly anymore

It's a sick world out there on the internet. Quite how people set aside their consciences so readily when they fake death or other traumatic events utterly baffles me. Do they never consider they are tempting fate at the same time as playing hideous games?