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to envy/hate people on benefits to be as well off if not better than us

999 replies

chocaddict · 08/01/2012 16:08

I know that this post may have some mixed reviews and may even get me slated but I can,t help it.
Someone I know although she is a genuine case her and her husband have as much as me and dh coming in and with a brand new car thrown in for good measure.
I can only dream of a new car and I work my tripe off 5 days a week as well as dh whilst some people can sit at home and get the same income coming in it seems really unfair.

OP posts:
wubblybubbly · 08/01/2012 17:15

Boffy, if you're interested in the mobility scheme, it's quite easy to look up the details.

The idea is to let the disabled person choose their own vehicle, if they want one, and pay accordingly from their benefit. It's a pricey option, up to £75 a week to basically hire a car.

I guess they get to choose the most suitable vehicle depending on their needs. Disabled isn't a one size fits all.

TheMonster · 08/01/2012 17:15

I was on benefits for a short while, and I had a medical assessment. They said I was fit to work. At the time I was shocked and very upset.
Looking back, two years later, I can comepletely see that I was much better than I had been. I now have a job I really like.
We have to trust the people who make the decisions as to who can and who cannot work.

SayCoolNowSayWhip · 08/01/2012 17:15

Of course, thankyou Pag, no one had mentioned the French yet.

EllenandBump · 08/01/2012 17:15

Or maybe they should only be allowed one car, then until it fails its MOT they cannot have another one and then only be given it if the car has been looked after properly? The new car is a lease scheme given to those getting higher rate mobility and instead of the money they get a car, this is instead of it and not in addition to it. What would you rather? At least it is being spent on mobility as it is supposed to be! x

cjbk1 · 08/01/2012 17:15

YANBU

wubblybubbly · 08/01/2012 17:16

Must correct myself, it can actually cost significantly more than £75 a week. Fortunately it's not an option we've needed, it's very expensive.

TotemPole · 08/01/2012 17:17

Plus another £80 if you have a child, Morris you have more than one.

SayCool, that typo made me chuckle. Who's Morris?

Pagwatch · 08/01/2012 17:17

Grin you are welcome. I love that headline thingumy.

SuePurblybilt · 08/01/2012 17:18

Oh I've seen Morris on Jezza Kyle. He deffo has more than one.

There's a man some of you would like - Jeremy Kyle. He says it like it is, doesn't he? You know, like you do?

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 08/01/2012 17:18

Great let's slag off the poor, weak and vulnerable and ignore the rich and powerful who ensure that they don't pay the tax they should. The government must love threads like this, really does show a bit of "divide and conquer".

fedup10 · 08/01/2012 17:18

My friends husband has ms, he can only get around by the help of his wife, pretty much wheelchair bound, physically and mentally exhausted, they have all the benefits, car included, they said that they would give anything to go back to 3 years ago, but unfortunately they can't, the daily strain and stress it has put on them is unbelievable. Having the benefits helps them, taking away the financial strain. Would you deprive them now, they don't take advantage, only what's entitled, He is only 30:(

SayCoolNowSayWhip · 08/01/2012 17:19

Damn autocorrect Totem :o

I'd love to earn Morris, whatever it is.

duckdodgers · 08/01/2012 17:19

loopsy "but I think if you are on benefits you should get it for a year, and then it's gone, and you either starve or get a job."

I really didnt think people like you existed outside a certain papers comment section you know that. So in this day and age you would see children starve would you? Its like something from the Victorian times!

And if you think jobs are so easy to find then you are living in la la land! Im lucky as I work in a job I enjoy and is relatively secure - but I have the ability to understand that not everyone is so fortunate.

DharmaLovesDraco · 08/01/2012 17:20

FFS how ignorant and judgemental can you get.

Be a love OP and jog on.

NorthernWreck · 08/01/2012 17:20
Biscuit
TotemPole · 08/01/2012 17:20

I've only seen a short snippet of JK, I don't think I could manage a whole show.

Have we filled anti-benefits bingo card yet?

TheMonster · 08/01/2012 17:21

fedfup10, that's a moving story. No-one would deprive them, I'm sure.

zukiecat · 08/01/2012 17:21

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SayCoolNowSayWhip · 08/01/2012 17:21

Lemme see..... HDTVs, shiny cars, disabled people, entitlement, the French....

Well my card's nearly full!

SuePurblybilt · 08/01/2012 17:21

Nearly, Totem. We're waiting for the immigrant stories.

CheeseandGherkins · 08/01/2012 17:21

I don't even know why I'm bothering with this, I usually avoid these threads. You can lead an idiot to reason but you cannot make them see sense.

kidd · 08/01/2012 17:22

My sister was a benefit for nearly a year and she and we were amazed at the help she got. It was difficult to start work as she was a lot worse off to begin with. So in that respect and the idea of those who cheat the system I would have to say YANBU. It makes it very hard to get up in the mornings, to go to bed in the evenings knowing that you have had almost no time to relax before the daily grind restarts and the weekends are always over so quickly.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes · 08/01/2012 17:22

YANBU, it is difficult when you see people who don't work, buying HD TVs, BlackBerries, etc and you can't afford that. This is mainly due to housing costs IMHO. They probably receive HB or live in a council flat. bollocks they are more likelt to have either been working previously and bought stuff when they could afford it or to be in debt, no way does a claimant have enough to buy new stuff like this and live too regardless of housing, plaese stop assuming that there are ££££ for claimants, and stop resorting to daily mail stereotypes about single parents all having multiple abusive partners, being unmarried teenagers getting pregnant to get a flat FGS NO ONE gets pregnant just to get a flat, it just does not happen the way the daily mail make you think it does. ffs I am getting mighty sick of this shit

salsmum · 08/01/2012 17:23

Theres an old saying...be careful what you wish for...My BIL (ex hubs brother) thought we were sooo 'lucky' when I had my severely disabled daughter because after I gave up work to look after her we them moved from a 1 bed (with 2 dc) flat with water running down the walls to a brand new HA house later when I separated from his brother BIL offered no help only to say how 'lucky' I was to get a brand new wheelchair accessible van Hmm although I tried to explain that I would rather live in a tent and have a pushbike rather than have a child who will never walk, sit up or eat unaided he remained unconvinced. As soon as able I started back to work as a carer and work many hours unpaid.
My BIL what happened to him you ask?? He has MS is in a wheelchair and very bitter and angry Sad...I would NEVER be as insensitive as to tell him how LUCKY HE is to have a new car.

Dawndonna · 08/01/2012 17:23

Dear OP,
At 5 0'clock this morning, I got up, changed my disabled daughter's sheets, showered her and got her back to bed. At six, I took my disabled husband to the loo, gave him his meds and took him back to bed. I got up, got the washing on, there's a lot, and supervised my other daughter. I managed to get a coffee at eight, when I took one up for dh, gave him more meds, lifted him out of bed, showered him, dressed him, and got him downstairs. I then showered dd1, dressed her, got her downstairs, sorted out breakfast. At ten, I got up DS2, put his clothes out, (he needs supervision) and sorted out breakfast for him and dd2, whilst removing the bleach from dd2s hand, because she was licking the bottle. After this, I supervised dd2s shower because she drinks the shower gel/shampoo/conditioner. Quick coffee whilst making lunch.
Sorted out dhs meds took him to the loo, changed him, got him back to bed for a rest. Cut up dd1s lunch so that she wouldn't choke.
Got uniform washed/ironed put away.

Sorted out Dhs meds. Got him up, having got tea going at some point.
I will feed and sort out three disabled children this evening, I will wash my dd at some point, carry her upstairs and get her to bed. The same routine will occur when dh needs to go to bed. I will also sort medication etc.
I will get to bed around 12. I will be up for meds at 2 and a bed change. I will be up again around four or five, and up for the day at 6.30 tomorrow morning.
I'm sorry I don't work as hard as you, but if it's any consolation, I do it seven days a week, no time off for holidays, good behaviour etc. I don't get any help because this bastard government have cut back on respite care, that's my two hours a week up the swannee.