to envy/hate people on benefits to be as well off if not better than us

[chocaddict]

I know that this post may have some mixed reviews and may even get me slated but I can,t help it.
Someone I know although she is a genuine case her and her husband have as much as me and dh coming in and with a brand new car thrown in for good measure.
I can only dream of a new car and I work my tripe off 5 days a week as well as dh whilst some people can sit at home and get the same income coming in it seems really unfair.

What do all these people on benefits have that all the hardworking people have ? Are we talking food, clothes and a roof over their heads?

Shoot the bastards.

They must have rules that differ across the direct payment system, as I have to be able to provide evidence for the care provided for my grandmother, including receipts... However, perhaps there is another government department which differs...

How much money do they receive btw? You seem very well versed in this families finances... Is it you? Are you actually stealth boasting?

I don't know, perhaps if people spent the time they are obsessing over other peoples lives working a bit smarter then they would have less to complain about.

Oh, the OP must be a wind-up. Nobody could be that ignorant. It's that Daily Mail-a-tron again, isn't it?

We'll be onto immigrants, Europe and HealthandSafetyGornMad in a minute. With a sprinking of Islamophobia for crunch.

I never managed the getting pregnant to get a flat either. I was offered a room in a damp stinking b&b in a red light district.

I really should have tried harder.

I'm afraid the OP is only one of the ignorant millions who have fallen hook, line and sinker for the vile rhetoric being spread by the government against all those nasty feckless benefit scroungers who are only pretending to be poorly, you know, and could work.

Would you like to be more specific, OP, as to what constitutes someone able to work? Because I think we would be very interested in your thoughts on this.

Perhaps me? Chronic progressive lung disease which is spreading? I've just come out of hospital again and am sitting on my arse all day at home. And guess what? I just bought some clothes (online, I can't go shopping) because I got some nice christmas and birthday gifts to spend. And we're going on holiday this year. A week in a tent in Dorset. Costs thousands, don't you know. So maybe I should sit here in shame that I am able to do these things when people like you are working and can't always afford things.

Yep - let's just increase the burden on disabled people. Every day I see another article. We are hated. Why don't we just give up and die.

FYI our total income we get between us, including my wage, tax credits, DLA, housing benefit and council tax benefit, is £17,388. After rent and council tax that's £11,772 and we haven't paid our care charges yet (i'm sure you have no idea what they are).

That's the absolute top whack with severe disability premiums. And that's fine. That's fine, but it's just NOT more than you. It's demonstrably less than 25k. Even if they still paid my carer's allowance (£55pw for 35 hours or more) it would still be considerably less.

Lone parents who end up with useless partners and have children with different fathers.
And the ones who get pregnant to get a flat.

Excellent. Hope you've marked that on your spreadsheet Sue.

Or those lone parents who were married but husband became abusive to point of stabbing so had to leave? I had three pregnancies all by my formerH but miscarried the first two? Cos i left i am struggling gto get housed and have to prove i was a victim of DV!! x

Re. Motability vehicles - do claimants always have new cars and if so, why?

Many working people can't afford a brand new car every 3 years.

Why don't the govt. standardise the system and perhaps stick to one or two basic models - a bit like the blue invalid car system from years ago?
Say they issued bog standard Fords - choice of a hatch back or estate, several years old. The govt. could commission certain local garages to deal in and maintain the cars, thus creating jobs and keeping total Motability expenditure down.

Clearly OP spends all her money on ketchup for that thumping great chip on her shoulder.

Op... Just a 'lone parent'.... You know....... One of those without the daily mail style baggage of abusive ex/ unplanned pregnancy

YANBU, it is difficult when you see people who don't work, buying HD TVs, BlackBerries, etc and you can't afford that. This is mainly due to housing costs IMHO. They probably receive HB or live in a council flat.
YABU if you think all benefits people are better off than working people.

Saycool.... And chocolate.

Nobody without a job should be better off than someone who works unless they have a private income, disabled or not.

chocaddict is this a wind up? I can't believe anyone genuinely thinks like this and so willingly admits it in public.

here you go. Plenty of thread potential here

Boffy, you won't have to worry for much longer. The govt. are making changes to DLA that will bring expenditure down by 20% - despite the fact that people are under claiming, and fraud is only .5%.

So the number of people entitled to Motability will fall, and all the scrounging disabled people will be trapped in their homes. And some of them will lose their jobs...

Don't be ridiculous Olympia.

Ketchup and chocolate would never go together.

How on earth do you afford a HDTv when on benefits? I was quite a high rate of Dla and could never afford such things . Unless I went to bright house or similar.

That's the sausage Pag, thank you.

I claim DLA for myself and my DS. I also work PT. Our disabilities are MH related and therefore invisible. Would the OP consider me a 'good' person because I'm trying to do my best by working PT or am I just working the system? As another poster suggested, OP would be best projecting all her hate onto income tax dodgers as they cost the country far more than benefit fraud.

The figure reality quoted was for a working person claiming top up benefits.

People relying just on benefits are on the breadline.