to envy/hate people on benefits to be as well off if not better than us

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I know that this post may have some mixed reviews and may even get me slated but I can,t help it.
Someone I know although she is a genuine case her and her husband have as much as me and dh coming in and with a brand new car thrown in for good measure.
I can only dream of a new car and I work my tripe off 5 days a week as well as dh whilst some people can sit at home and get the same income coming in it seems really unfair.

Boffy have you mixed hollyoaks up with panorama again?

Hahahahaha! Wonderful.

XX to Dawndonna. I am a carer too but only for one person. Carers are as used and abused by society as much as disabled people are.

OP i will probably get flamed for saying this but it is a choice to have children. It is not a choice to be disabled or to have children with disabilities.
The blatent hypocrisy on this thread is astounding unless of course ALL you benefit bashers on here are either NOT claiming your Child BENEFIT or tax credits (hate to have to inform you of this but the Tories do see tax credits as a benefit) or after claiming you are donating it to charity obviously!!!!!

Those that truly require benefits should get them, and IMO should actually get more.

These threads arise due to the fact that there is a percentage of people out there who we all know

work the black economy then claim
rent out their council property
can't be arsed
don't support their offspring

I could go on.

How the system is going to be improved to clear out the freeloaders is anyones guess. Why not have a discussion on creative ways to do that? And whilst we are at it, the wastage going on throughout all government run systems and contracted out work should be addressed, right to the fucking top of the tree. The waste is HUGE

Where's Huntycat she'd be all over this.

Has anyone mentioned that the amount in unclaimed benefits far exceeds even the govt's own estimate of the amount lost to benefit fraud?

Bloody benefits culture, another example of Broken Britain, Hardworkingtaxpayers* etc. etc.

*Delete to taste

Erm, tax credits are a benefit carernotasaint!

Yep, Body I do miss my quiet bath on a Thursday morning. Ah well!
I get on here in short bursts though, dd1 on the loo, dh dozing, ds1 (27) supervising the others at present, I've got twenty minutes before the yorkshires come out of the oven!

:( Dawndonna. It's shocking that they even only gave you 2 hours respite in the first place. Let alone took it away.

BodyOfEeyore, you say 'We have to trust the people who make the decisions as to who can and who cannot work.' This is just blatantly untrue. Have you read any of the many blogs out there about people denied DLA/ESA and yet being very sick and disabled? I'd recommend this one to start with here - gives something of an insight into one person's struggle.

How can we trust ATOS when they are a privatised company bought in to cut as many people off ESA as possible? When the decision makers are not always even medical professionals, when they don't even want to know about consultant reports, when they make snap decisions on a half hour slot on a given day without finding out about how your illness affects you across the board? When all they care about is ticking their narrow little boxes?

I'm pleased for you that it was the right decision and that it has enhanced your life to return to work. However for a large majority it is a terrifying decision which will at best take away necessary finances and at worst...well, I'll let you imagine. :(

Im aware of that Kitchen roll I was merely pointing out the fact that there are a lot of hypocrites on this thread and i obviously touched a nerve.

OP I suggest you also look at the statistics of the Joseph Rowntree Trust that has found that theres a high majority of carers families living WELL BELOW the poverty line...as well as working I need to be 'on-call' 24/7 for my daughter.
recently I had to have time off (2 days) because she was sick. I was told by my manager because I've been in my carers job less than 2 years it would come out of my Annual Leave entitlement .

I'm picturing you like a hamster on a wheel, dawndonna, just going and going and going. I once knew someone who had a disabled dd and she had respite for a weekend every two months. She bloody needed it as she was at the end of her tether by then. I can't imagine how you must do it.

MissMogwi - I haven't seen Hunty in a while. I do hope she is ok.

A question really but why do those of you who find these threads so upsetting, insist on torturing yourselves by reading them? I don't understand why anybody would put themselves through that, really I don't.

So which is worse - someone who works 12 hrs a day, 6 days a week and resents paying high taxes, or someone who thinks working is for mugs

Erm..... neither? I'm genuinely quite flummoxed by your post.

[http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html here you go OP and all those who resent people on benefits - this should be right up your street]]

madhairday, I can only speak from my own experience. At the time I though the decision made about me was wrong, but looking back I know it was right and it helped me to get back to my old self.

Oh, sod off OP, and get something better to judge.

I had to be bailed out by family when on JSA because I could barely afford to live.

I'm having to use my overdraft now that my back has gone and I can't work, until the government decides what I'm entitled to.

Go find something else to worry about - like your own finances.

a link that should work!

I was wondering about Huntycat too. Hope she and family are ok.

I was thinking of it from the other perspective - that people who are given benefit need them. I wasn't thinking about the fact that so many are denied them.

Thank goodness they do LyingWitch or I suspect even more drivel would go unchallenged.
But it's shit that people like the OP have the power to upset so many people.

I'm glad it did Body :)

I just get so upset by the reports out there of wrong and terrifying decisions for so many :(

Yawn. Do fuck off. We had to go on benefits because one of our three children has cancer and it was impossible for my husband to work shifts and still look after our two young children while I have to live in this hospital, rather far away but it's the nearest place that can treat her, on a camp bed watching her go through round after round of chemo and knowing that if a bone marrow donor isn't found for her, her death is more and more of a certainty.
But we should be made to suffer even more? We can't even claim DLA on our child until she's had cancer for 3 months. It's far from getting money thrown at you. What fun that's going to be, filling out that form about your child with cancer.

Thank you Carer

Madhair It was 2 hours a week because the dcs are at school from eight until 3.30. Apparently that's enough, gawd knows what they think happens here in the holidays!

Body hamster!