To say NO! to the backyard bungalow builder's latest application?

[OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere]

Got a letter from planning today.

Neigbours finally got round to applying for planning for the humoungous fence they put up in the summer.

It is there to stop us seeing what is going on in the gym house they builit in their small urban back garden.

The fence is ugly and very tall. It is attached to the fence that we already have which is the regulation height so its is totally unecessary (apart from to act as a screen).

I dont like it, it impinges on my garden and my neighbours have behaved like total bastards over the bungalow that they should never have built.

What do I say in response to the letter. Are any of my lovely planning people around to advise on the wording?

If people are not familiar with the bungalow saga they can see pics in my profile.

Hello Mrs DV. No advice re the fence. Just wanted to say you have vair good taste in wallpaper

Can you send in before and after pictures to demonstrate just how much it impinges on your garden/light etc.?

Oh, and ensure the council know that this is retrospective planning permission.

YANBU but you know that already don't you

Hopefully the planning folk will be along to help you out more constructively!

After what you've been through with the building at the bottom of the garden, no YANBU. Good luck.

Thank you Original

Dawn it is over the permitted height. Quite a bit over. It is very imposing. They have no good reason for having it up as there is already and adequate fence in place. They only put it up to stop us seeing people coming and going from the bungalow.

I need to know what sort of wording I should use. I have photos but I have little faith after all we have been through tbh.

Awwwwwww, your children are soooo smiley and gorgeous!!

As is your budgie!!

No advice regarding the fence though.

that bungalow is hideous

Say NO! It might finally put an end to the monstrosity they've been building.

I'd wondered what stage they'd got to

I will need to keep bumping and hoping MissMarjorieBanks sees it or Mistle and there were some other lovelies with a wealth of good advice.

WHERE ARE YOU?

So, just to recap a little - no chance of them pulling the bungalow down, and if so, would you definitely be happier to have the smaller fence and be able to see the bungalow?

Ive lurked on your previous posts and i think after all you have been through a letter about the fence would have sent me beserk. I cant advise you what to write but i'd be responding that 'yes i do object to the bastard fence thats blocking the HOUSE that they have built in the garden!'

Honestly how you have kept your sense of humour i dont know. And how the hell your neighbours have got this far despite you flagging it up at every stage i just dont know.

I loved your idea of porn outside their window or a bloody great floodlight the bastards.

I would say the fence is too high and robs your garden of light. Surely it won't be allowed to stay? What about the bungalow - are the council investigating whether it's being lived in?

the bugalow ad fence puts me in mind of those half finished buildings one sees in the back streets of tripoli.

however, i have no idea what to put in your letter but feel the need to tell you just how utterly beautiful your children are.

Hello MrsDV I've spotted you!

I'm about to go out but will be back later on this evening and will come and help then.

In the meantime can you PM me Council name and application number so I can look at the application on the web.

Coincidentally, this weekend I am writing a strongly worded objection letter to a planning application that affects us. It is a similarly bodged piece of building work but a commercial structure so it needs permission.

Just Say No. You don't need any more shit and you don't need a whopping fence (don't put that in the letter though).

Probably worth PMing the planning MNers - even if they've name-changed I think it will reach them.

OP, your main grounds for objection will probably be 'loss of amenity'. In your letter you need to cite the planning application reference, state that it is retrospective and whilst you appreciate that the rules mean that the Planning Authority has to process the application you do expect a refusal and enforcement action on the fence and the structure behind it.

The 'loss of amenity' includes it being overbearing, visually intimidating and causing loss of light.

You might also stress it is not in keeping with the neighbourhood, and represents part of an 'over-development', although that's possibly pushing it a bit unless you bring in the dodgy-structure connection.

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If it's attached to YOUR fence, the very least is that they should erect their own. But objecting to planning permission may be cutting your nose off to spite your face ifswim as you willl be left looking at their eyesore of a building. Of course you could always grow some leylandii (2, so that you don't fall foul of the hedge laws) as long as the shadow falls on their garden and blocks out their light

Yay! That's quick work Mrs MB. Do you have some sort of MN bat phone?

They wont pull the bungalow down because the actual erection is within permitted development. They are not allowed to live in it though.

I dont care if I can see the bloody thing. Now the bastard builder has gone and the garden is not full of odd men staring at me I can deal with it. Its no worse than what was there before.

The fence IS very imposing and it sort of peeters out towards the end of the garden so they dont lose any light into the side window of the bungalow (cheeky feckers).

They didnt bother to get permission, they took the piss YET again and why the hell should we make life easy for them? They only want the fence up to block us out, we can no longer see along the gardens so it blocks our view and makes the garden feel very closed in.

There is simply no need for it. There is an adequate fence there already. If they are made to take it down I will put trellis up at the end where the bungalow is.

And take MissMarjoribanks up on her kind offer!

Kick their arses

My lord your family is beautiful. Hand deliver the letter to the planners and have the children burst into tears about lack of light in their garden. That orta do it!