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..to love the harvey nics walk of shame ad

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spiderpig8 · 09/12/2011 17:21

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ReshapeWhileDamp · 12/12/2011 19:12

Agree, SGM, but then there's your naff £5 primark fluffy slippers, and your English Sheepskin Company slippers who never get ratted and only shag stockbrokers. Hmm

(Sorry SGM, enjoyed your autocorrect!)

StewieGriffinsMom · 12/12/2011 19:13

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KateFrothers · 12/12/2011 19:50

ooh I've done it. Tweeted a pic of Dave and needy Nick walking.

daenerysstormborn · 12/12/2011 20:03

seemingly harvey nicks have taken advice and

LEttletownofBOFlehem · 12/12/2011 20:06

Yes, that was referred to last night. Hilarious Hmm

SuePurblybiltbyElves · 12/12/2011 20:13

Oh FFS.

Arf at Kate.

SolidGoldStockingFilla · 12/12/2011 20:31

Literal version is good, it kind of smacks the ad right between the eyes 'Look! We hate women!'

Bubbaluv · 12/12/2011 20:40

I don't think anywhere near as many people would be in a huff about this if the advertiser was Topshop or something.

And calling the women "sluts" !!?? WTF!?

forkful · 12/12/2011 20:52

Bubbaluv - as you have obviously misread the inference in my and perhaps many other posts: I am not categorising the women in the ad as "sluts" - that is what Harvey Nichols is doing. The whole "walk of shame" theme - is to categorise women as "sluts". This is why a lot of it find it deeply misogynist (woman hating).

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FarloRigel · 12/12/2011 21:46

Have to say I hate it. Even if you don't want to believe it's misogynistic, and I can't see it any other way, it's still mean and cruel and likely to erode people's self-esteem. Really, do we need to feel SHAME at wearing a dress that's less than impeccably tasteful? What kind of values do you have it that is something to feel shame for? OK, I wouldn't wear any of them, including the HN one, but why can't they wear what they like without being judged? Girls have it shoved down their necks way too much that their looks and how much they spend to maintain them are all they are worth and that is is almost a sin not to be sexually attractive at all times. I certainly hope my daughter never sees it, I think it's vile and hate everything it suggests. I just felt sorry for those girls, I didn't think it was funny at all.

radiohelen · 12/12/2011 22:29

Hideous... how rude. Do you think they got permission from those women to use their images? Most of them were shot from the street so technically they don't have to get permission if you are in a public place. They wouldn't have done that though - must be models.... nasty message though. You must feel ashamed for wearing skimpy gear at 6am. You must feel shame for being out all night. Shame on you for not having enough cash for a cab or an expensive cover-up frock.

All I can say is that I've met a fair few creatives in my time and they are primarily outrageous gay blokes who would think this ad is hilarious and gnaw off a limb for the opportunity to get paid to make it... I can think of one guy in particular who would have taken enormous pride in making this. The dark side of advertising.

spiderpig8 · 12/12/2011 22:39

Of course they're actresses

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nativitywreck · 12/12/2011 22:46

I am boycotting Topshop for the simple fact that their clothes make me look like a mentalist. I really don't need the extra help in that area.

KateFrothers · 12/12/2011 23:20

I think TopShop have actually boycotted me.

Still, I shall cheer myself up by spamming Harvey Nick's #walkofshame hashtag with pics of Nick Clegg walking, looking smug, there are no pictures where he looks ashamed

Serenitysutton · 12/12/2011 23:27

Wahhh in all honesty I thought the idea was the last womans dress was more sophisticated and practical- and yes, classy- so she could do her walk of sham but noone would know she was doing it.

You're buying a lifestyle- we'd all rather be the woman at the end than the others.

Morloth · 13/12/2011 00:07

Pashminas people, you can roll them up tiny and stuff them in your handbag along with ballet shoes and a packet of wet wipes. Look as good as new.

We have always used walk of shame to mean all night partying. Happy days...

I have to admit that if I had seen it before I read the thread I would have assumed it was an ad for coats.

Inertia · 13/12/2011 00:43

The women in this advert look vulnerable, and some of them look scared or distressed. Obviously they're actresses and they've been directed to act in that manner- but the reaction it provokes in me is concern; it doesn't make me want to go out and buy a new dress. If I saw women in real life looking so obviously dishevelled, alone,and upset as some of the women portrayed in the ad I would be worried whether they were ok.

And I really don't like the implication that if you've been out at night and you're not a 6ft size 8 model the you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

olivestanssister · 13/12/2011 00:50

You would think some you haven't stumbled out of a flat in the morning with your knickers in your handbags~pockets.
Or are you too posh to push etc?

LEttletownofBOFlehem · 13/12/2011 01:18

Are you quite well? I don't understand the relevance of your slightly strange post.

KateFrothers · 13/12/2011 01:20

Nah olive's a troll. She's trying it on with me on another thread. Weird, posts trying to be deliberately insulting. Trolling.

SlinkingOutsideInSocks · 13/12/2011 01:20

I would really love to know more about what sort of market research they did on this ad.

I imagine it was probably more qualitative than quantitative, as they would have to have shown respondents the ad in order to get feedback on it - so small samples, probably focus groups. I also imagine they probably would have wanted to screen respondents as to their likelihood of shopping at HN - so within this already small sample, there would have been quotas for existing HN-shoppers, and possibly also for people who may not necessarily have shopped there before, but who'd be open to it.

I imagine they probably would also have screened respondents for their social demographic - income, age, etc, etc.

There's no point them forming a focus group consisting of people that the ad doesn't target. The opinions of a group of middle-aged men, for example, aren't going to be relevant, are they? They're not trying to sell party dresses to middle-aged men.

So, I imagine, the focus groups would be made up mainly of existing customers, as well as women people who have not yet shopped there, but who HN would like to shop there - after all, it's all about increasing sales. So obviously people above a certain income bracket.

Now - imagine the sort of feedback this group of people would give that ad. A big thumbs up for the most part, no? They probably identify to a certain extent, with the woman at the end. Of if they don't they wish they did. They aspire to be a hell of a lot more like her than the women in the first half of the ad.

Had they conducted focus groups with an actual representative group of adult human beings, I'm sure their findings would have been very, very different. Probably more along the lines of the mixed responses to this thread. Probably even much more disparate, since this thread/forum is populated mostly by women, many middle-class, and for the most part old enough to be mothers. In other words, with the bulk of their partying days behind them; not in the thick of nights out and lost weekends, responsibility-free.

I remember the 'walk of shame' from my days, and associate it as much with just being out all night, as following on from a one-night stand. Nothing to actually be ashamed of.

I think they had a good idea, but the execution is kind of abysmal, as it has come across as classist, sexist, fattist and judgy/disapproving. In my day, walkers of shame got loads more nudge, nudge, wink, wink looks as opposed to sideways, disapproving looks but they obviously couldn't incorporate that into the ad, as it detracts from the idea that these women should be feeling awkward, embarrassed, ashamed of themselves. And would only feel better if they were wearing a posh frock.

If you think about it, there is no way to do this ad that does accurately portray the 'walk of shame' - which is actually a bit of a sniggery, what-am-I-like? laugh; not something to actually be ashamed of. Hmm

Because if you did portray it like it actually is, with the passers-by giving the girls sly smiles instead of judgy looks, then there would be no reason for women to go out and spend £££ on a dress.

To my mind, it's an ad man's idea of what 'the walk of shame' must be like for a woman, as opposed to a woman's real-life experience of what the walk of 'shame' is (or was, back in the day!).

Oh, and the ad is also off-target for another reason, since their market probably is more women of our age - older, with more disposable incomes, etc. But, our 'walk of shame' days are well behind us. How many footloose and care-free single teens and 20-somethings can afford to splurge big bucks on a dress from Harvey Nicks? They wish...! Xmas Grin

olivestanssister · 13/12/2011 01:21

Have you not watched the video?
I suppose you wont understand because you've not had the opportunities to experience the walk of shame.
Which judging by your frosty posts is no surprise.

olivestanssister · 13/12/2011 01:22

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KateFrothers · 13/12/2011 01:24

Delighted as I am that you find me so fascinating olive, I do fear I am not nearly as interesting to everyone else. Perhaps you could PM me your thoughts? Spare the rest of the board?

and I could block you

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