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289 replies

clairec1 · 29/11/2011 15:16

hi there, im a mum of 4 and one on the way, the father to my unborn child is also the father of my youngest, and a few weeks back we sat down and talked and we agreed on giving a relationship ago but im worried if this will affected my benefits i get, income support, child benefit and child tax credit but he doesnt live with me he lives at his parents house where he pays his bills etc............ Thanks for any advice

OP posts:
cantspel · 29/11/2011 16:35

fickencharmer millionaires who dodge paying tax are just as bad as people lieing to claim benefits they are not entiltled to.

One wrong doesn't make another right.

Dillydaydreaming · 29/11/2011 16:35

Okay so I am understanding that:

You were in a relationship
You were both in work
You fell preganant due to a contraceptive failure while on antibiotics (stop frothing at the knickers folks - it happens and too many docs omit to warn women that some antibiotics will interupt their contraceptive pill)
You and your partner have had a relationship break down and are now both out of work due to circumstances but want to give things a try without distressing the children any further hence you live apart at the moment.

Have I got that right?

Yep - I'd advise taking things slowly too but am unsure regarding benefits as have never had to claim them (this might well be changing soon). I'd advise either the CAB or a lone parent advisor to give you the info you need.

maypole1 · 29/11/2011 16:35

montmartre heres some

Stop lying about being a single parent which you are not

Its people like this who cast a shadow over real single parents whose ohs have run of left them destitute or died

fickencharmer · 29/11/2011 16:36

BARF well Branson is probably not on here. Nor is dave Downton Cameron.
Rupert Murdoch is giving it a miss today. Sugar, Alan. Not so sweet. But he does not do mumsnet. The Queen? Would like top be a mumsnetter but has been advised against it.

Moominsarescary · 29/11/2011 16:37

If you don't live with him it won't effect your benefits, you can have someone you are in a relationship with stay over a few nights a week, they also ask if he leaves any thing at yours for example clothes or if he pays any bills.

As he isn't working they would be on benifits anyway

She has said they were both working up until recently

If people are going to froth and berserk they should at least read what the op has said

cantspel · 29/11/2011 16:37

Barf no i cringle more when i think of someone who is looking to max out the benefits they can claim by remaining a single parent when they clearly have a partner.

maypole1 · 29/11/2011 16:37

Add message | Report | Message poster usualsuspect Tue 29-Nov-11 16:33:33
OP , you can claim as a couple

she knows that or course but she can get more by pretending she is a single mother.

MadameCastafiore · 29/11/2011 16:37

AND STOP HAVING SEX or learn to read the leaflet insdie the pack of antibiotics which clearly states that it may interupt your protection.

nursenic · 29/11/2011 16:38

Many people base their decisions on when/whether to marry or live together on money.

I know plenty of people who have chosen either to marry or not to marry for tax reasons.

If you have an NHS pension, it will only go to married spouses. Live in partners will not get the weekly pension paid to them. That is the reason for our decision to marry- to stop the effing government taking a pension we have paid a combined 40 years into.

fickencharmer · 29/11/2011 16:38

Nast posters usually feel unhappy about being nasty. Thats what the research shows. So we must all try and be nice; because we want to be happy.

ChristmasBreak · 29/11/2011 16:38

Had a quick look at directgov and the criteria mentions "living together as if you are married". Op has said they don't live together and so for this purpose she is classed as a single parent and isn't lying.

MrSpoc · 29/11/2011 16:39

clairec1 - you should of thought more about your differences before jumping into bed or even bringing another child into the world.

MrSpoc · 29/11/2011 16:40

why was my message deleted? ha ha suppose truth hurts.

flatbread · 29/11/2011 16:40

OP, I am being a bit out of line here, but genuinely curious.

When did you stop working in a paying job? Was it after dc1, 2, 3 or 4?

Are the father(s) of your children 1, 2 and 3 paying maintenance?

nursenic · 29/11/2011 16:41

OP-

Take the advice given in good faith. Ignore the rest. Pull the thread when you feel you have enough advice.

The OP asked for advice, not nasty insults.

Dillydaydreaming · 29/11/2011 16:41

To be fair Madamcastiofore not all antibiotics do this and it is not unreasonable to expect a doctor to warn of this if what has been prescribed will affect another medication a patient already takes.

ShirleyKnot · 29/11/2011 16:41

"tax payers dime"

Shouldn't that be "HARD EARNED TAX MONEY WHAT AT PAYED IN TAX GRRRR"?

maypole1 · 29/11/2011 16:41

ChristmasBreak I think we all know what we class as a single parent and not the definition the labour party put out to bribe the benefit bound

usualsuspect · 29/11/2011 16:42

If he moves in and they claim as a couple she won't be worse off

Dillydaydreaming · 29/11/2011 16:43

For those adding insults - it's really easy to know the entire story from a few lines asking advice on an internet forum isn't it?

JaneBirkin · 29/11/2011 16:43

In response to the OP, you're right not to live together until you are certain you will make a go of it, otherwise as you rightly say it will be bad for the kids and your money will go up the swanee as soon as it goes wrong.

Tread slowly, don't rush into it, see how it goes.

There isn't a magic number of nights he can stay - they don't have any set rules which I think is ridiculous. It's all done on their discretion which basically means if they like you you're Ok, if they don't, you're in trouble.

you're safest if he doesn't ever stay the night tbh though I know that's crap.
Good luck with it all.

fickencharmer · 29/11/2011 16:43

You are entitled to have the BENEFITS laid down in law. Claimants dont make up the rules. Governments do. And we have a very mean-minded government full of multi millionaires.

Had you noticed Maypole? ( a lot of people take no interest in politics)

usualsuspect · 29/11/2011 16:43

She will have to give up her mansion and big fuck off tele though

maypole1 · 29/11/2011 16:44

nursenic the only thing money wise that would of stopes me getting married would have been if oh was on benefits

Op is lying a she has no right to call her self a single parent

oldenglishspangles · 29/11/2011 16:44

I was feeling really stressed out at clearing up after my children but this thread has made me lol Grin

Dave is the Prime Minister

HTH

lol lol and lol some more

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