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clairec1 · 29/11/2011 15:16

hi there, im a mum of 4 and one on the way, the father to my unborn child is also the father of my youngest, and a few weeks back we sat down and talked and we agreed on giving a relationship ago but im worried if this will affected my benefits i get, income support, child benefit and child tax credit but he doesnt live with me he lives at his parents house where he pays his bills etc............ Thanks for any advice

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nursenic · 29/11/2011 15:41

Not a myth- one of my patient's was facing an investigation for this issue and I managed to 'acquire' a copy of the assessment criteria. The 3-4 nights was used as illuminating information; i.e it shed light on a domestic situation when viewed alongside other factors.

WilsonFrickett · 29/11/2011 15:41

Well as CB is being phased out for higher earners very soon nursenic you can rest easy on that one [hnn]

KittyFane · 29/11/2011 15:42

I disagree, OP obviously hasn't got a decent relationship with this man otherwise he'd be living with her now.
With 4 DC she sounds as if she I'd better off without him. ( but she didn't ask us that).

KittyFane · 29/11/2011 15:43

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clairec1 · 29/11/2011 15:44

sorry but i only came on here for some advice, i didnt expect to be mauled to bits. yes i used contraception but i was on antibiotics and i didnt know it would affect the pill. would it make you all happy if i just had an abortion? we both worked before we split up but due to our split and family circumstances we both lost our jobs and now im on benefits.

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AntiqueAnteater · 29/11/2011 15:45

you'll be ok if you dont work and are on benefits, you will be getting a 5% rise, if you are stupid enough to work in the public sector, you will be getting sod all!

nursenic · 29/11/2011 15:47

Yes, Clairec, he can come round and help, especially if you have CS or PND etc and need extra support.

But there must not be any evidence of him paying bills etc unless that is documented within any formal child support arrangements.

I would contact the CAB and any local single parent groups, also Homestart (if Scameron hasn't stomped through the budget of your local one) to get the very best, up to date guidance.

You are clearly trying not to rush things. It is so damn easy to sit at a keyboard and judge a situation that by necessity, is only very barely outlined in type. i wish you luck in establishing a family unit.

NinkyNonker · 29/11/2011 15:47

I did Hmm when I heard that today Antique.

PeneloPeePitstop · 29/11/2011 15:49

Oh dear, wrong board OP cringe

BoffinMum · 29/11/2011 15:51

Do whatever is best for the kids.

nursenic · 29/11/2011 15:53

I was referring to illuminating information. THEY WILL look at how much time together you spend. THEY WILL investigate where a person has been when they said they had been there. My client's partner's Parents were visited the very same day that he was interviewed on. They were tape recorded and asked to provide proof that he had slept there when he said that he had. They were asked how many nights he slept there and what time he arrived back the day after a night spent away. They were asked if he came back to his parents to shower and change before going to work. They were asked what clothing was kept where.

niceguy2 · 29/11/2011 15:54

Unless he earns a lot of money, ie. higher rate tax sort of money, it is highly unlikely that you will be better off living together than if he lived somewhere else.

Right/wrongs are irrelevant. That's the system.

Dawndonna · 29/11/2011 15:58

All those scroungers getting a 5% pay rise when nobody else is. It's a load on 67 quid a week isn't it.
For crying out loud, kindly remember that some disabled people and their carers are on benefits before you start having a go at the pay rise. A rise which in fact happens every year. There was discussion about stopping it, it hasn't happened, it is not an extra award.

NinkyNonker · 29/11/2011 16:00

No-one said it was an extra award. Cost of living applies to all, inc public sector staff.

MrSpoc · 29/11/2011 16:02

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DesperatelySeekingPomBears · 29/11/2011 16:03

"For crying out loud, kindly remember that some disabled people and their carers are on benefits before you start having a go at the pay rise."

Yes Dawn and those poor people who actually need it could get a hell of a lot more if the country didn't also have to support the feckless/lazy.

LIZS · 29/11/2011 16:03

but you are already in a relationship with him if you have 2 kids together Confused, it could be hard to prove otherwise. Ultimately consider what is more important for your dc , having an interested father figure or not wanting to rock the financial boat? What are his priorities ?

clairec1 · 29/11/2011 16:04

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PlentyOfPubeGardens · 29/11/2011 16:07

You're right to take things slowly. I imagine you split up for a reason.

I hope you can find enough useful advice in amongst the other stuff. You might want to report the thread and ask for it to be moved.

NinkyNonker · 29/11/2011 16:11

You are doing a good thing OP, trying to sort a stable relationship with the father of your children, I really hope it goes well for you.

clairec1 · 29/11/2011 16:13

thank you to everyone who has given me advice and has said kind things. I will make an appointment with cab and see what they say xx

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maypole1 · 29/11/2011 16:14

This lady is a perfect example of why i am GLAD the welfare reform bill is going ahead

1- having a baby when you are on welfare
2-deciding to deprive your children of their father on a daily basis because you would rather claim your dole
3- pretending to be a single parent when you are CLEARLY not

Single parent: one who is caring for child or children alone and not in a relationship with the parent or step parent through separation,divorce or death

You miss are none of the above and I can't wait fir January to come when yu would have the option to pounder how to cal aim as a single aren't and remain with your Childs father

Yuk

101North · 29/11/2011 16:16

claire - good for you for having a supportive partner who is dad to 2 of your kids and you don't have to actually live with or clean up after

but How is he going to continue being so 'supportive' when you're post-natal with a newborn and 3 other dc's and he's at his parents??

Wouldn't having a partner you live with and him being a good father and role model to your kids be worth losing a little bit of benefit money?

maypole1 · 29/11/2011 16:16

Should have took things slowly before you brought another child in the world

Won't have him move in lest it effects your dole but you will bring another child into this world to be raised on the tax payers dime

No bloody shame

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