benefits

[clairec1]

hi there, im a mum of 4 and one on the way, the father to my unborn child is also the father of my youngest, and a few weeks back we sat down and talked and we agreed on giving a relationship ago but im worried if this will affected my benefits i get, income support, child benefit and child tax credit but he doesnt live with me he lives at his parents house where he pays his bills etc............ Thanks for any advice

I'll have some of that then please! Can I have it as a state pension when I'm 90?

Maypole my son has 11 gcses. 10 A* and an A. He is doing four A levels. He wants to be a doctor. He is quite capable of it.

Only if you say "thank you" like you mean it, Shirl.

Dawn, well then, you should be proud as you are fully responsible for your dcs successes in life

Maybe we are just quibbling over semantics. I am grateful I live in democracy and a humane country. I am grateful because others gave up their lives and time and money to make this happen. You are pleased, but not grateful. Must all be the same thing in the end.

It's highly likely, flatbread.

Oh id be ever so grateful

Please sir, can I have some more gruel?

natation

Also which you missed out

50% off travel in London
A budgeting loan (up to £1000) which is paid back as little as £1 a week
A crisis loan again (up to £1000)
maternity grant ( which you get for every child £500)
Bq vouchers for decorating
Free school trips (all children on welfare have school trips suberdised )

Any one can think of anything else please feel free to add to
natation list as seemly some think the benefits are hardly anything

I wish someone would of given me £500 to buy my baby stuff

No tethersend, if the OP has another child, her income from benefits will be bigger than our family's income from 2 working parents + 4 children. We don't get a pay rise for each child, fixed income, unlike when claiming benefits for children. I'm beginning to wonder why we didn't just continue and have more children then give up our jobs - 6 children is the point at which we would get more in benefits than working 70 hours a week between us. Oh no, forgot, we have a conscience.

BeerTricksPotter its not about inequalities ots about parental attitude

Children grow up thinking the government owes them (which we saw in the interviews with the looters in the summer)

Children are sponges they see their parents not working but still able to live similar live to their peers so don't see the value in it

They learn from their parents the more children you have the bigger house you receive and the more money you can get

Their might be one or two who brake they cycle but we all know wether you will admit it or not come from a workless household you more likely to live off benefits yourself

A couple of details, maypole:

-maternity grant is now for first child only.

-Free school trips apply to everybody- nobody can be compelled to pay for a state school non-residential school trip, no matter what their income

But don't let that halt your flow. It's like poetry.

"No tethersend, if the OP has another child, her income from benefits will be bigger than our family's income from 2 working parents + 4 children."

Ah I see. Although, you could always have two more children to remain in the lead.

"We don't get a pay rise for each child, fixed income, unlike when claiming benefits for children."

You don't claim child benefit?

I'm going to brake my cycle on the way to the shops to spend Iheartmolly's money tomorrow.

tethersend no their not my sons year 6 trip was upped from £300 to £437 to allow the children on dinner tickets go for free

Thank you very much in the end we as a WORKING family could not afford the trip

So the work shys children went and we hard working family could not send our son lesson my son learns hard work dose not pay off

Had a trips week in his new high school two weeks ago letter about payment were sent to all children who were not on dinner tickets

Come on, BTP, we've not had sense of entitlement yet- we've hardly even begun

And while the frothers froth at the benefit culture, and shout at the injustice of it all,
The Government slash and burn their way through the public sector, freezing pay, upping pension age, freezing tax credits.

Crushing the poorest. And what are we doing? Fighting each other rather than fighting inequality, and I'm not talking about perceived (or maybe real but small) inequality between those on benefits and the working poor but the TRUE inequality of a government of millionaires handing down their ideology and making the poor suffer.

Nice one.

"tethersend no their not my sons year 6 trip was upped from £300 to £437 to allow the children on dinner tickets go for free"

If that was the cost of a non-residential trip, they wuz robbed. I think you mean a residential trip, no? The rules are different.

Did the school tell you this? Did they tell you that the reason for raising the price was to allow the "children on dinner tickets to go for free"?

tethersend yes you do bloody get a raise the amount for one child and a single parent is www.hertsdirect.org/docs/pdf/b/benrate it clearly shows that when you have more you get more

Where on earth did I say that you didn't, maypole?

That's a very confusing post- can you elaborate please?

I dint know where people are getting their figures but for income support, child taxcredit and child benifit for one adult and 5 children I'm getting just over £12000 a year

Don't worry we won't be frothing for long the free money is being stopped soon thank god

tethersend yes we were told in a letter that the hike in price was to all equal access and to support all child to go on the school trip that they had been in a class together since 4 years old and it would be a shame for everyone not to go

Meanwhile every child in my sons class went that was on benefits and 6 children whose parents worked could not afford to go

It went to the governs and everything parents were outraged of course not the ones who were getting it for free
They even got the PTA to help pay for equipment for the children gurrrr

It's classic distraction, though, isn't it Shirl?

Look at that person slightly worse off than you! It's his fault you're struggling!

Look!

Look over there!

Are you still struggling? You've no money because someone just took it?

LOOK AT THAT BASTARD!

Over there!

He's probably got a better telly than you!

You what? You've no silver?

LOOK!

OVER THERE!

ad infinitum

Moominsarescary people work 40 plus hours a week for that

You say it as if its not really very much and thats the issue