benefits

[clairec1]

hi there, im a mum of 4 and one on the way, the father to my unborn child is also the father of my youngest, and a few weeks back we sat down and talked and we agreed on giving a relationship ago but im worried if this will affected my benefits i get, income support, child benefit and child tax credit but he doesnt live with me he lives at his parents house where he pays his bills etc............ Thanks for any advice

this is not about people claiming benefits.

This is about one person trying to cheat the system in order to keep her benefits. She is committing fraud.

Op also never said she was working then got pregnant. She said she had worked at some point. I doubt bother were working then laid off at the same time.

How is she commiting fraud?

Her DP is not working

Is this post for real?

How do you surmise that MrSpoc?

She's not living with a partner. They haven't even begun a relationship yet - well, re-begun it. they want to try again.

She is allowed to claim benefit and should do so until she decides to move in with this man or be supported by him.

You're trying to say she's cheating the system when in fact she's not. She's trying to establish how not to cheat it and still get it right for her children and financial security such as it is.

That's NOT THE SAME THING. And the benefits agencies can make it really bloody hard to get right by not having set rules to follow. Go on, ring them up and ask what the rules are about relationships in this situation. No one will give you a straight answer.

In what way is she trying to cheat the system?

If you haven't been frightened off by everyone putting on their judgy pants - it is not an ideal situation but then most situations aren't.
1: I hope you are getting what is due re child support from the father of the other DCs.
What do you think the chances are of either you or DP getting work in the near future?
When is the baby due?
Do your calculations as if you were single - he will have to contribute £5 a week for the DCs that are his if he is on JSA and if you pursue it through CSA.
Then do the calculation as if you were living together. The other father has to pay whatever the situation is with your current partner.
That's the finances.
Then consider that if he has another place to go easily, he can walk from you and the DCs if it is too hard.
Have a long talk with him re supporting the pregnancy and baby. What is he prepared to do as the father.
Then tackle the relationship between you two. What is making it so hard, what needs to change, how long have you got to work on that? Did you ever live together, why did things go wrong?
Fwiw, if you don't make the commitment now, it will be harder to get him to commit to newborn when he isn't there from the start.
But if you really don't think it's going to work, sorting out one lot of benefits and then the next lot as a single parent is going to be a huge hassle.
The finances are important, but shouldn't be the deciding factor in how you proceed.

BENEFITS very complex law. Try reading the law in your reference library. You will give up in 10 minutes. saying what the vbloody hell are they talking about.? (lawyers make their dosh out of complex law.)

You can only call someone a cheat because you hide behind a nickname?>
And, anyway, the authorities probably know who hides behind the nicknames. (Do some of you actually think its SECRET?) Think again please
in all our interests.

Rich tax fiddles I thought you would mention Lester Piggott? IT WAS YEARS AGO

struwwelter. Good advice. Go to citizens advice they will give you guidance. But get what you are entitled to otherwise the system breaks down. Its riddled with complexity. Itmust put some people off. (It does old people)

Hi OP. To answer your question to the best of my knowledge, your benefits should not be affected as your partner does not live with you.

I think you are doing the right thing to take it slowly if you have had problems in the past and do not want to confuse your children. As long as you declare it if/when he does move in, you should have no problems.

I don't understand why rich people fiddling taxes should somehow justify people cheating regarding benefits.

Also, in many cases, the rich people who evade taxes are not actually taking from other people's tax contributions. They are just not paying their fair share. The positive regarding these folks is that perhaps they actually create/sustain businesses and employ people, a net benefit to the economy.

Benefit cheats on the other hand, are just takers, and a net drain on society.

Shes not a benefit cheat though

usual it was a more general response to someone up thread who was trying to say that instead of disapproving of people who game the benefits system, we should get upset at 'rich' people and tax evaders.

Add message | Report | Message poster clairec1 Tue 29-Nov-11 15:44:27
sorry but i only came on here for some advice, i didnt expect to be mauled to bits. yes i used contraception but i was on antibiotics and i didnt know it would affect the pill. would it make you all happy if i just had an abortion? we both worked before we split up but due to our split and family circumstances we both lost our jobs and now im on benefits.

mrspoc op clearly states that they were both working when together

No Korma, she said the youngest is his. So, three, with someone else before he came along. Not after.

This thread looks very familiar, to an active thread on Nethuns, in the 'Money, Finance and Entitlements' section of the 'House and Garden' forum.
It even has the same thread title

Except, in that thread, the 'DP' does work

Benefits are increasing by 5%?

shuffles off thread planning on how to live the life of my dreams on an extra £11 a month

Yes-bringing up 5 kids on benefits is obviously the ideal-a veritable utopia in fact. Well done on acheiving that op.

I must tell my dh to jack in his job and sprog out another 2 dcs so that we can reach this nirvana too.

On and MNHQ-0/10

Similar eh?

See IHeart, I just don't get that "woe is me, I am on benefits and it is so hard". It is meant to be hard. It is also meant to be only a stop-gap measure, not a permanent way to live.

So yes, if people get upset on those who are on benefits for all their adult lives, it is not because we think it is a lot of money, but because we don't see people trying to improve their lot by going out to work.

And there are jobs out there, and it is possible to start a business, even if it is cleaning other people's homes. Why do some people think it is ok to take benefits for years and years, even though they are reasonably fit and can work?

OP should be thinking about ways of getting herself/DP back to work, not how she can maximize her benefits.

mince - it is VERY similar. Have we been taken in .?