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To think this woman is putting her child in a very dangerous position with her racist rantings on public transport?

380 replies

TartyMcFarty · 28/11/2011 10:28

YouTube clip here

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wahwahwah · 28/11/2011 18:18

I suppose it makes 'normal' people consider how they treat people (anyone not only people from different places) and ask themselves what they wold do in a similar situation - if they would say something or not.

I was especially nice to the annoying people in the bank and building society today.no felt as if I was balancing out the bad karma for the day.

JamieComeHome · 28/11/2011 18:22

I tend to say something to people if they are really offensive. I probably would have said something quiet and mild to her, along the lines of not swearing and not upsetting her son, not because that's the worst thing she's doing but because getting angry and arguing about the racism wouldn't work.

GwendolineMaryLacey · 28/11/2011 18:24

Very very tough viewing. That poor child. OK, I'm very pregnant and hormonal but I'm also sobbing. What chance does he stand, growing up with such hatred, and, as has been said, without any reaction at all. DD, who is a bit older than him, would have been in bits if that was going on around her.

Encouraging to see that she was challenged but frightening also how many people buried their heads in their phones.

JamieComeHome · 28/11/2011 18:24

Or I might talk to the son

MrsPennySworth · 28/11/2011 18:24

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15923875

Here's the article saying she has been arrested.... Vile woman!

wahwahwah · 28/11/2011 18:24

That's the thing - if you have your kids with you, you don't want them to see you potentially getting your clock cleaned by some nutter. Nor do you want a small child to see mummy in a slanging match with another woman. It is a toughie.

JamieComeHome · 28/11/2011 18:25

I have got into confrontations with people in front of my children and it does scare them a lot. So you have to be careful how you do it

WorraLiberty · 28/11/2011 18:26

They've just shown it on the ITV London Tonight news

At least her son's face was blurred out Sad

snuffaluffagus · 28/11/2011 18:30

Psammead.. oh!

Well still, a youtube clip jumps up, it takes a second to buffer so you have time to close it.. ehem..

Caoimhe · 28/11/2011 18:33

Well she has been named on the Croydon Advertiser website.

JamieComeHome · 28/11/2011 18:33

my last posts makes me sound like a fishwife. What I meant was, I have got into dog-shit argument once, and another time a girl shouted at me when I pointed out she'd dropped her kebab-wrapper on the pavemant

Orchidskeepdying · 28/11/2011 18:45

She's been arrested - just watched bbc london news.... GOOD!!! Justice is done.

TartyMcFarty · 28/11/2011 19:01

I wouldn't chance a confrontation by challenging this sort of thing if I had DD with me. After this I would report it to the police though. I hope I'd have more.courage if I were alone.

I really hope the child's welfare is put first here. I expect the boy in the background's mother is feeling justly proud of her son's restraint tonight.

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diabolo · 28/11/2011 19:04

How absolutely awful. I hope she has been arrested, maybe her poor child might have a half a chance in life without that awful, racist, foul-mouthed imbecile as a mother.

I loathe racism. And as it's pretty much accepted nowadays that the first Homo Sapiens walked out of Africa, it stands to reason we are all "immigrants" and once had darker skin.

What a despicable human being.

FreudianSlipper · 28/11/2011 19:11

great news that she has been arrested

there are areas of croydon that have a large amount of bnp support one pub was drapped in their banners at the last election

QuintessentialMercury · 28/11/2011 19:33

You are all whipping up a storm about this.

Yes, it is horrid behaviour.
But:
Is she the only one to behave like this?
No. Not in the least. There are people swearing and shouting abuse daily. You see it everywhere, especially in London. Not only white people do this.
Honestly, sometimes I feel like I am on the Jerry Springer show, shopping in London, or just going about my daily business.

Most people dont notice. Nothing to do with them.

The only thing that makes this different, is that people were stuck with her, and had to listen. And somebody thought to film it.

It is good that people dont want to stand for this behaviour. Most people dont care.

There is a lot of ignorance, and discontent out there.

But honestly? She is just another Asbo mouthing off.

Dont let her be a martyr. Dont let her become racism and abusive personified. She is just one of many. Sad

maypole1 · 28/11/2011 19:37

QuintessentialMercury

Biscuit
FabbyChic · 28/11/2011 19:39

After reading all the posts I expected it to be worse than it was, she is clearly on cocaine or speed. She isn't drunk.

I feel for the child it's embarassing.

WorraLiberty · 28/11/2011 19:40

I don't understand your post Quintessential...we not letting her 'become' anything....we're just discussing a youtube link and her ensuing arrest.

FreudianSlipper · 28/11/2011 19:41

really i do not see this every day in london. i have never seen a racial ranting like that on the tube or tram. in a pub yes where they knew that they had lots of support around them

fastweb · 28/11/2011 19:42

I think the people who are saying she may have MH issues are either naive or being way too sympathetic.

Or they clocked the mouth tic and the recycling of a phrase in various (and off sounding) forms, as a kind of punctuation to a disjointed discourse, and it rang a bell.

So they left room the possibility that the inhibition (rather than the subject matter) was down to factors other than being simply a gobshite.

I hope she is just a gobshite. She'll be better placed to process the unforseen enormity of the fall put, be intimidated by actual and threatened offical consequences and that kid might just stand a small chance of avioding a repeat performance.

Drugs and MH issues on the other hand, not so much cos impairment that creates lowered inhibitions can also clouds how outcomes viewed or even noticed.

QuintessentialMercury · 28/11/2011 19:42

Good. Everybody should be prepared to film people like her. The police will be very busy indeed. If they can be arsed. I guess there need to be a thread, and a twitter campaign for every single instance of antisocial behaviour for any arrest to happen.

Thanks, but I dont eat biscuits maypole. Wink

QuintessentialMercury · 28/11/2011 19:44

Maybe people dont see it, or pay attention to it because they are not on the receiving end, or have never been? As a foreigner, it only takes a couple of times to hear it before you start noticing it going on. It is awful, it is hurtful. But I think the real concern is her child.

WorraLiberty · 28/11/2011 19:45

I still don't get your point Quint

Are you saying you're unhappy that this incident was caught on video, posted on the internet and then went viral...leading to the woman's arrest?

TartyMcFarty · 28/11/2011 19:46

Quintessential, I've been surprised on Facebook (not so much on here, I expected it) how many people do care and have said so.

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