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To wish I'd never returned to my home country? Warning: long

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WednesdayPlums · 28/11/2011 01:14

I have name-changed for this as I think it might make me fairly identifiable.

My family and I lived in the UK until earlier this year when we moved to my country. I had lived there (the UK) for 13 years, DH is from there and DS and DD were born there. They're now 2 and 1 respectively.

I had always wanted to return home at some point and the catalyst came when my Dad, who's a widower, was very ill with bowel cancer in 2009. It was in the immediate aftermath of this that DH and I made the decision to 'emigrate'.

Fast forward 2 years and after selling our beloved family home and then renting for a couple of months, followed by a month staying with his parents, we were off to start life on the other side of the world.

We left behind our lovely, cosy family home which we were probably going to grow out of in a few years, but which was perfect for us with two little ones. We left behind two well-paying jobs. Specifically, I left behind a job I loved with a boss I adored, working from home, fantastic salary, which enabled me to be part of my children's day, giving them meals, putting them down for naps, suppling cuddles when needed, etc, etc.

We left behind an au pair sent from heaven who was a joy to live and work with. Who adored our children, made our lives so much easier and who our children loved in return. We didn't have grandparents in the country, but as she lived in, was able to provide baby-sitting whenever we needed it.

And we did need it. We left behind a great social life, enabled by said lovely au pair. I had made a good group of friends in my years there, and my DH had a huge, extended circle of friends, most of which have been around since school days. When we got together they all welcomed me into the fold and it felt like I'd known them all for years. He was the lynch-pin of the group, the one who went out of his way to stay in touch with everyone, to have everyone over regularly, and organised group nights out and get togethers. Our house was host to many late night, all-back-to-ours parties over the years. Life was great. We were not emigrating because we were in any way dissatisfied with our life there.

We have been here now nearly 7 months and I am miserable.

I am a SAHM Mum. DH was able to transfer his job, but not to the city we had planned to move to, which is where I know people and have good, old friends. Instead, we're in a city where we know hardly anyone. We have no support close by - my Dad is a 6-hour drive away.

I am struggling with the SAHM thing. I am just not cut out for it. I adore my children, but I find looking after them, at this age, hard. Squabbling, bickering, whinging and whining seems to be, feels like, the backdrop to my day. We go out every day, usually twice. We have activities and groups that we go to - they have plenty of stimulation, but not too much. They have plenty of opportunities to burn off energy, but also to be at home and potter around and relax, I am doing my best but it feels monotonous, mundane, routine, relentless. And in my time 'off', I get to clean the house!! Yay, the utter joys of being a mother and housewife......... DH pulls his weight, by the way, no issues there.

We have no social life any more. And even if we did, we don't have a baby-sitter or any family/friend support close by anyway.

DH's salary is several times the national average (he took his good London salary with him) but it is so expensive here. So much more so than I remember, and seemingly way more than it ever was in London. We're getting into debt just to live. Everything is expensive. DH took the car to get cleaned at the weekend - what would have been £8 in London, was 50 bloody dollars here. Plus he had to wait longer, and it took longer. This is symptomatic of everything.

There's also so much less choice here, which of course bumps the prices up. If you want something in the UK, you go online, do a search and you'll be able to find it, order it and have it on your doorstep in a day's time. And you don't have to mortgage your house to be able to pay for it.

Sorry - this is so long-winded if you've made it this far, well done. Each weekend we give each other half a day off, to go out and get away from it all, rest, relax, do something of our own choosing without two toddlers cramping our style. And this is the sad thing - the only highlight of our week is going off by ourselves. This isn't nice. It's not good for us, and it's not how our life was. We both of us, me especially as the SAHM need that break for our sanity, though. Plus we miss our friends. We're lonely. And going off to do our own thing only exacerbates this.

We paid thousands of pounds to move here and to ship all our belongings, furniture, car, and we're now getting into debt just to live. It feels like a disastrous mistake, but moving back would devastate my Dad. Everyone says it takes a good two years to settle in to a new city, but I still don't see how our life will be like it was in London.

I will look for a job next year, I will have to if we're not to get further and further into debt, but it depresses me to know that I won't be able to work from home as I did previously with the kids in their own home and environment every day, and I can't handle the thought of full-time nursery for my two when they're still so young.

I feel like we've made a terrible mistake and it's all my fault. DH has been amazing, but I know he misses his friends and family and our life. It feels like a drudge here, with nothing to look forward to, and no friends. And we're broke. It's crap. :(

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Schnullerbacke · 29/11/2011 22:42

Great, I have all of that to look forward to. I'm from Europe, DH from Asia, we live in UK. Both dont want to live here anymore, he wants to go back to his country. When we first got married I promised him we'll move there so he can look after his parents, fast forward 10 years and having my own kids - no way I want to go there now.

So yep, looks like we'll be getting divorced in 5 years (when his work contract is finished) as neither of us is willing to compromise. Our poor kids.

As I keep saying, globalisation has benefitted many but has also brought huge costs to families.

theartfulsoapdodger · 30/11/2011 07:32

hey squiffly you're doing all the stuff I was planning to do when we moved here, kayaking etc - all this fantastic stuff on the doorstep and I've barely been in the sea, been here a year!

if someone arranges an Auckland meetup count me in, my youngest is 3 so definitely up for a playground visit. I hear the Wynyard Quarter is good, haven't got round to going there yet though. The playground at Hobsonville Point is great too.

OP - it's officially summer tomorrow so hopefully the weather will stay good, which always makes things seem better. And although lots of things are expensive, other things are cheaper than the UK which compensates a bit (I remember this every time I fill up with petrol). And it was months until I realised that Farmers don't have a sale on every single day of the year! Keep your chin up Smile

squifflybobs · 30/11/2011 23:37

In your defence the sea has been a tad chilly the past few months. I have now invested in 2 different wetsuits and flippers in an attempt to motivate myself- truly have all the gear and no idea...

I also like hobsonville point, especially the cafe!I believe the new road makes it fairly accessible from the n shore too.

if anyone else fancies a meet let me know and I will attempt to PM people at the weekend ( if I can work out how to do it, am long term lurker and rarely moved to post)

catsrus · 01/12/2011 00:31

just to throw something else into the mix :) I think maybe you were spoiled being in London! London is actually a very friendly city as so many people are non-native and willing and keen to make friends. I went to live in London at 19 from the North of England and LOVED it. left for 3 yrs in my 20s for work but came rushing back, met exH, in london where we lived for 8 yrs post marriage and eventually moved to his home town to be near his parents. I've been here 18yrs but most of my close friends are still in London, or back home 'up north' or in the nearby city where I worked. Where I live has lots of pluses, I have a nice house and it's gorgeous round here but I don't really have a social life here apart from family. My kids OTOH have had a great childhood here and have tons of friends locally, I didn't want to bring kids up in London because I wanted them to have more space and freedom, and the kind of access to the countryside that I had as a child.

In terms of friendly people and quickly developing relationships though I do think London spoils us for other places. In my experience where we often meet good friends is at work - I never really did the bonding with other mothers at babygroup thing Hmm - once the kids were a bit older and I started working I got a great social life again!

then again I didn't have mumsnet in those days :)

Penelope1980 · 01/12/2011 07:59

I agree with Catsrusu, I found it very easy to make friends in London very quickly. They do happen here, just take a little longer!

RodentOfUnusualSize · 01/12/2011 10:16

hi all, another Auckland mner coming out of the woodwork here.

I feel for you OP, I am in almost the exact same position. We moved here 5 months ago and I still feel terribly unsettled. The primary reason that we moved here was to be closer to DH's family, but they are 2 hours away so we don't have any support on a day to day basis either.

Like you, I have had the double whammy of moving from London and giving up a fantastic career to be a sahm. I actually think that it is the latter that has caused me the most grief, so I am trying hard not to 'blame' NZ. And while Auckland has lots of great features, if you are a city person then not many places can hold a candle to London.

An Auckland mn meetup would be fun, please let me know if anyone gets it sorted.

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sweetsantababy · 01/12/2011 10:27

Why did you go? You are still 6 hours from your Dad, just can't get my head round why you have done it.

IWouldNotCouldNotWithAGoat · 01/12/2011 16:53

Less than constructive, Santababy.

sweetsantababy · 01/12/2011 16:56

Genuine question! Makes no sense to me at least at all.

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sweetsantababy · 01/12/2011 17:08

Err but she is no where near her dad. talk about over reaction.

sweetsantababy · 01/12/2011 17:12

And actually op YABU. Why would anyone in their right mind leave the life they had for the one you have got now? Makes no sense at all. You are still a massive distance away from your DF.

TeWiharaMeriKirihimete · 01/12/2011 17:47

Hi OP - I am actually NOT in NZ! But my family is expert is flipping between their and UK it seems Hmm

Anyway - I agree with everyone else stay for the summer, it's your chance to see the good side. You lot should also clearly have a MN meet-up! If you are allowed to get a job I'd look into that too, maybe start your own business if nothing suits?

Auckland has always been a bit grim to me and isn't my favourite place to be brutally honest, but I am a South Islander and naturally biased Wink so can't really advise.

If you do decide to leave again, your kids are young, they won't remember. It will be fine.

IWouldNotCouldNotWithAGoat · 01/12/2011 17:52

Very helpful contribution Santababy. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

TeWiharaMeriKirihimete · 01/12/2011 17:53

Without wishing to be rude to Santababy, I don't know if they are aware that NZ is basically massive, and 6hrs is not actually that far.

laptopdancer · 01/12/2011 17:58

I am planning a move back to my home country and when I started to readthe OP, I panicked for a minute. Then I read on.

Thing is OP, it does sound like your life in UK was rather charmed so I can see how your expectations may have changed. We live in a nice area in the north west and both work long hours for average pay and have no child care. (and no social life). It wouldnt even occur to me to have my car cleaned, Id just do it myself. I also go and get my shopping and havent really made any friends here is 10 years.
The thought of 6 hrs away from family rather than thousands of pounds and 26 hrs away sounds wonderful to me. It really does.

I feel sad for you because the problem is that you had an unusually good package here. It may improve when you find work?

WhatSheSaid · 01/12/2011 18:29

justabout I will endeavour to stay positive about NZ for you Wink. Honestly, we're very happy here. But we've been here years and I spent 7 years here before having a mortgage and dcs so had plenty of time to meet people and travel around and do stuff. I was talking with some friends the other day about summer coming up and we were getting excited about all the free concerts, movies in parks etc that happen over summer. It's a great time to arrive.

sweetsantababy · 01/12/2011 18:32

Six hours is far away. This is Aibu so be prepared for yes you are

laptopdancer · 01/12/2011 18:35

IMO 6 hrs is nothing. You can be somewhere for the weekends, family weddings arent a full scale plan mission. 6 hours is a freakin luxury and a normal drive for an antipodean. You may see your family every month rather than every couple of years with 6 hours. Its just up the road. I choose 6 hrs over 26 any day.

WhatSheSaid · 01/12/2011 18:46

sweetsantababy

a. You're not being helpful

b. In Nz there are only a few cities where someone with a high-up job can find work (I'm assuming the op's dh has one of these jobs as they are living in a fairly expensive suburb and she says his salary is several times the national average).

You have to live in one of these cities to work. Outside of the major cities there are no motorways so a distance that would take a couple of hours in the UK would take 6 here, along small sometimes very windy roads. She is still 6 hours drive from him (or probably an hours flight) but it's a bit nearer than 2 days flying from the UK isn't it? She has come back because her dad has been seriously ill so I'd cut her a bit of slack if I were you.

MarianneM · 01/12/2011 19:01

Oh my goodness OP, I totally identify with you! Your post could (almost) have been written by me earlier this year, in fact I think I did post a similar post here last winter.
We did what you did, moved from London to my country in summer of 2010 after 13 years because we thought London was too expensive to raise children (we have a 3yo and a 16mo). By the winter I was feeling down, for much the same reasons as you: loneliness, lack of social life etc etc. I was on maternity leave for a year so stuck at home all day...Anyway, by last Jan-Feb I pleaded with DH that we return, which in the end we were able to do this summer as I still had my job to go back to. DH is at home with the children. And absolutely NO REGRETS!!! I am so happy to be back, and consider myself to have had a very lucky escape!
No advice really, but I hope things work out for you there. Give it time, the adjustment takes a while, but you may grow to love it. If not, is there a way you could return?
Totally agree with you though, London is great, the best city in the world IMO!

thelittlestkiwi · 01/12/2011 19:17

I love NZ- must do as we only came for a year, nearly four years ago :-) I'm not sure I'll ever be able to give up living by the beach. Don't get me started on the driving though.

Seriously, I don't think OP's issues are really with NZ. Both the UK and NZ are great places to live. But obviously they have pro's and con's and OP needs to find out which works best for her family without the horrible moving phase influencing her decision.

OP- the first months after moving are horribly expensive. Setting up costs are huge so it will get better from that point of view.

I'm in for a Wynyard Quarter meet up. Can't do next week though.

WhatSheSaid · 01/12/2011 19:19

I came here for a year too, in 2001 Shock

TinyArmy · 01/12/2011 19:24

Oh, OP, I can relate. DH is American and we live in Pennsylvania and there are no other Brits I know, no other mums (only "moms"), I feel really lonely sometimes and I have regular "I want to go hooooooooome!" freakouts. The whole reason I joined mumsnet was because of how isolating it is here. My nearest family is in Canada and DH's family are all on the west coast. I wish we'd stayed in Devon but there's more work for us here. America's not an awful place by any stretch but I do feel really foreign. I sometimes wish we lived in a more metropolitan area where there were other Brits.