To think every SAHM, low hour PT worker and carer should read this?

[Peachy]

Well i am not but it matters to you so you must

here

Changes to system WRT worker hours

have a thread in chat and don;t want a debate, or at least won't participate iun one as petrified as we will now certianly lose our home and not up to taking flak. But if it affects you, you need to know.

Can I nominate littlemisssarcastic post as the best of the thread? I think she has summed it all up in a little nutshell.

LookattheearsFri 11-Nov-11 12:41:33

"I think this thread is a shocking wake up call to the society and expectations that have been created from years of an entitlement culture.

Why shouldn't you work to support your own family?!

except for you, eh, lookatheears, you don't work do you? you have expectations that your husband should earn enough so you can do hardly any work at all, as you said earlier?

you are exactly the sort of person who should have no say in a debate like this, you pay no tax as you don't earn, you rely on the benefits of having a wealthy husband, yet you have a very superior attitude to posters not in your position

I can take this moral viewpoint from someone like your dh who is working his arse off, not from you who sits and home and reaps the benefits

FFS.
There is something wrong with some of us. We really ought to leave this thread, we shoulnd't be justifying our existence to this lot, they're not worth it. Trouble is, we have a sense of justice and fewer prejudices.

Thank you HarryHillatemygoldfish

OhDoAdmit
Having a degree doesn't mean that they were paid for by the taxpayer. Neither of mine were.

justred I think those who wholly funded their education at the true cost are very much in the minority in this country. As look had to live in a lowly bedsit when her OH was studying that would suggest he didnt have the many thousands of pounds it cost so pay the entire, real cost of his degree.

I suppose he could have got his via the Open University but that would have meant he would have been able to continue working 80 hrs a weeks so I guessing that wasnt the case either.

But look can tell us that herself. She might even get round to answering the question I asked her up thread.

Maybe.

I wonder if look has ever paid any taxes?

DD you dont do 500 hours work per week, so each person under care does not need 1 careworker 18 hours per day.

on the hours you gave that is £46k.

ssd

I haven't worked in paid employment in over twenty years, so according to you I shouldn't have any say in any debates/

Thank goodness we live in a democracy, where my vote counts. Don't assume just because I don't contribute monetarily I don't contribute to society.

anyone can contribute, but having a sneering attitude and a "do as I say, not as I do" attitude like lookat on this thread is extremely hard to take

Are people suggesting that only those who are paying in at the moment should have a say?

I agree with SSD. Its not about saying SAHM shouldnt have a say in the debate.

Its more that those who are not actually contributing via taxes have got a bloody brass neck to lecture those who do on how they should live their lives.

I am getting bloody fed up of people on threads like these taking a superior tone because me and OH live on a low income at present. They disregard the thousands and thousands of pounds we have paid in over the combined 50 years we have been paying taxes.

It just so happens that the ones who tend to be most obnoxious are the ones who seem to have contributed very little themselves personally.

It is hard to take sneery comments from someone who thinks she is hard done by because she has four children to look after. Four children she chose to have but yet seems to see caring for them as a gruelling task and people like my OH have it easy because he gets paid to go to work at 4.30

almost who said you dont contribute to society?

Those sort of comments seem to be aimed at those whose OH's dont work 80hrs a week.

OhDoAdmit, ssd said 'you are exactly the sort of person who should have no say in a debate like this, you pay no tax as you don't earn, you rely on the benefits of having a wealthy husband, yet you have a very superior attitude to posters not in your position'

Now, I'm not saying my OH is a wealthy husband, but he has a well paid job and we do have four children and I don't work. We've cut our cloth to suit ever since I left work.

I do however, do voluntary work to keep myself busy. I couldn't just do housework all day every day.

But wasnt that comment aimed at look?

Someone who was rude, jugemental and ill informed yet felt qualified to denigrate and lecture those less fortunate and harder working than herself?

If that is not a description of you, the comments are not aimed at you.

Alouisee - You are LYING. My DD is 13.7yo. I had to PUT IN A CLAIM FORM to get CB. It was NOT 'automatic when you registered the birth' at all - I know because CB lost my DD's birth certificate - which I had to send with the CB application form.

Fatfleur - You ARE rich if you can afford to pay school fees for private school. Sorry, but I could work 90 hours a week, and I'd STILL not have enough money to pay ONE set of school fees. Tax and NI aren't a LIFESTYLE CHOICE, but school fees and private medical insurance ARE a LIFESTYLE CHOICE as much as having a child when you are on benefits. If paying for school fees and private medical insurance leaves you feeling 'not rich', then maybe you should assess your priorities? Because being left with £100K AFTER tax IS FUCKING RICH BEYOND WHAT I CAN EVEN DREAM OF. It's not jealousy, it's simple FACT.

And if you are claiming the CB for 'necessities' - then you should stop paying for the school fees and private medical insurance - as THEY AREN'T NECESSITIES - If they are then benefits should cover them too. A necessity for one group of people must also be a necessity for ALL groups of people - otherwise it ISN'T a necessity.

funny thread, so whilst the haves are sneering at the havenots,
the most vulnerable are being forgotten

the idea that the genuinely disabled will be safe is a dream..
funding in all areas is being cut, so genuine disabled people are going to suffer.
whilst our government call them scroungers and the shitheads who post on threads like these(you know who you are) insists that the cuts are right, it will go one.
brilliant

Just been reading the thread a bit more. look's posts really are priceless.

It takes a robust person to do what your OH does hey?

Maybe its my turn for a little vacarious boasting:

It takes a fair amount of robustness to keep working even when you are in pain all the time and your legs dont work. When you need a stick to get from the front door to the car and your brain cant tell where your feet are.
I would call fighting in a war fairly heavy going too - but without the salary your OH earns.
50 hours of shifts as a paramedic on the means streets of inner london without the armed guard afforded to your OH.

All done by my lazy arse OH who gets to leave for work at 4.30

Did someone say that you got CB automatically without having to claim?

What an odd thing to say.

littlemisssarcastics's post is spot on!

It was me, but honestly why wouldn't you claim it. As I said upthread no one has a crystal ball - not an accurate one anyway.

Hunty - calm down ffs.

It is WISE to claim CB though as you get your NI stamp, even if you DON'T need the money. And I have seen many a thread where women who only get CB and "housekeeping" suddenly need to leave the family home due the high earning dh suddenly taking fancy to something in the office.

Err hang on huntycat Its not me who has Dcs at private school and has private medical insurance. READ THE THREAD.

Being a SAHM is contributing, without me DH would not be a high earner, oviously. BTW I also volunteer. In our house the I earn the money too as we are a team.

for all you posters who feel SAHM should have no say again smacks of jealousy SAHM do work and some of us volunteer too.