To think every SAHM, low hour PT worker and carer should read this?

[Peachy]

Well i am not but it matters to you so you must

here

Changes to system WRT worker hours

have a thread in chat and don;t want a debate, or at least won't participate iun one as petrified as we will now certianly lose our home and not up to taking flak. But if it affects you, you need to know.

twinkly, again missing the point. We are not money motivated, we have had to work harder to pay the ever increasing costs. Our life is pretty simple, caravan holidays 9paid for by tesco vouchers, food, a home etc. You have very percieved notions.

peachy .

My dp often says that the people he was supposed to go to school with are either dead or in prison.

Fatfleur
I have to go now but wise words indeed.

I didn't say you were necessarily motivated by money. I said that if you were it may be difficult to understand someone who isn't.

once again Clossiant, the DWP's own figures put abuse of DLA at 0.5%.
I have no idea what the figures are for JSA/IS although I know you get called for interview after interview.

To be honest fatfleur your life sounds very much like mine without the Tesco vouchers . Our household income is around 70k before tax. There is a gulf between our two household incomes although you may have more children than we do.

I totally understand the feeling that you feel poorer than your salary would suggest. The older members of our family do not under stand why we can't afford to heat our house, we only eat meat once or twice a week and our holidays are camping ones . Money often goes less further than others would imagine . I am not claiming to be poor and I understand that you are not either.

Sorry, did I understand correctly?

fatfleur, you have an income of £200,000, claim child benefit and are whining about other people "topping up [their] choice with public funds"?

Just wanted to be sure I've got that right.

No You have got it wrong. that wasn't me who said we earn £200k

I wpuld be happy for child benefits to be scraped for everyone except those who really need them

Ah, I was looking at your post:

"If you earn £200k and pay 50% tax, NI, school fees and private medical insurance, you ain't rich"

Because it does seem rather strange to me if private medical and school fees don't count as a lifestyle choice (except in rare cases).

Well then we agree fatfleur.

Private health is not a luxury, it is at the very top of my list of essential expenditure
In the eyes of the rest of the world, it's a luxury. Lucky you that you are able to make a choice.

I honestly don't think you have anything else to contribute here.

Dawndonna i run my own company. it is small but profitable. i have to have enough money coming in every month to pay other people's salaries.

when i had d&v, i gave up drinking water so i could go to work. i worked through several years of Fibromyalgia.

you might think healthcare is a luxury. i dont think it is for any self employed person.

Closs so if its the fault of the people who have been abusing the system, why is it the people who arent who are going to suffer?

How is that OK? or are we just a bit of collatoral damage.

My OH works 22 hours a week. I cant look at the changes because it gives me panic attacks. But as I understand it our house hold could be forced to work 70 hours a week between us.

As my OH couldnt possibly manage more than the hours he does that would mean I may have to find a job working 48 hours a week. I would need to fit these 48 hours in between school runs. OH starts work at 4.30pm. I havent worked out how this will be possible.

I wonder if anyone can help me out?

OhDo

1. are either of you ill?
2. how old are your children?

Ohdoadmit if OH starts work at 4.30 why can't he do the school runs?

What did Fatfleur say that got deleted?

ohdo

My DH works 80 hours a week all by himself.

Lookat
I work around 126 hours a week, all by myself, stilll benefit scrounging scum.

I'm a SAHM of four Dawndonna so I also work similar to you but our jobs don;t get a salary nor involve us leaving the house at 4.30 am, I suspect.

Not sure Alouisee but don't think it was anything bad

Dawndonna you work 126 hours, lookats DH works 80 hours. isnt it great that a household with 2 healthy adults and teenage children, both parents will now have too look for work?

Because he has Multiple Sclerosis, which is why he works part time and why he works in the evenings. It takes him most of the day to loosen up enough to go to work at 4.30. He needs to sleep in in order to go to work later in the day.

Look I am assuming your OH doesnt have a degenerative neurological disorder?

Jeez do you think I would be stupid enough to talk about my OH not working himself into the ground unless he had a reason? I have been a member of MN for too log to do something like that.

And this thread is about families who will struggle if these changes are made.

lookat doesn't work

Do you want to reconsider your bitchy post now look ?

Me and OH both work and have done since our teens. The only time I have been a SAHM is when I was caring for my terminally ill daughter.