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AIBU?

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AIBU? DIL says I am

263 replies

EmmaInADilemma · 28/10/2011 10:25

Bit of background first. I'm retired, mediocre pension but I do a little bit of part time work. I own my own house outright. I'm comfortable but not particularly flush with money in the bank.

I have two sons, mid 30's. One is married, both DS and DIL have reasonable jobs, mortgaged to the hilt and their one DGS is at primary school. I help out where I can. I can do some of the wrap round care. I baby sit when asked, which is infrequently as they rarely go out as they don't have the spare cash for a hectic social life. The nature of my PT job allows me to have DGS most of the holidays thus avoiding expensive clubs. They rarely go on holiday certainly never abroad on expensive holidays. DGS isn't materially spoilt because a they cant afford it and b they just aren't the sort of people to indulge in must have gadgets cell phones or consoles

My other son is in a relationship. Not married. She has two from a previous relationship which my son treats as his own and I treat them as my own GC. They have a further three DC together. Neither of them work. She's never worked and I can't remember the last time he worked with any regularity. So they are both home to do school drop and pick up. They call in and out of my house several times a week either with or without the children. If Im going into town I will call and see if DIL wants to meet me for coffee etc. We have a good relationship. These GDC do have every conceivable gadget going. Even the 7yo has a blackberry. They think nothing of taking the DGC out of school and going abroad to get cheap flights and accomodation. They know the offer of babysitting is there if they need it and the younger ones do come over in the holidays too.

So. Christmas is coming. I asked DIL what the children wanted this year and that I was thinking of buying other DGC a laptop as a one off special present. I know DS and his DIL just couldn't afford something like that. So she said along the lines of thats nice but it will be expensive buying 6 laptops. I said that wasn't what I meant and her DC have all the gadgets and I certainly couldnt afford a present bill of nearly £2,000 and she had to be sensible about what I could afford.

Then the resentment came out. I favoured one DGC over the other five (I don't) that I do more for my other son and DIL than I do for them, that I pander and babysit at the drop of hat and it was all awfully unfair. I was shocked. I never knew she harboured all this. If the boot was on the other foot and she worked I would be picking up her DC from school and having them in the holidays. If they were strapped for cash I would try to help out where I could. But the simple fact is, they aren't and have quite an affluent lifestyle in comparison and don't need my help as much.

I really dont think I was being unfair or exercising favouritism by buying one child, who has very little, something nice when all his cousins already have the same thing (and more).

AIBU?

OP posts:
FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:15

slave- get your facts right...to claim carers you have to be caring for someone who receives DLA, the two are not mutually exclusive.

pink4ever · 28/10/2011 16:15

fanjo- I have no problem with people who are in genuine need receiving benefits. That is what it is for. It is not there to provide an income for work shy people to do and breed as they like. IMO. Please dont make this personal-really no need for it.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:16

you don't know the people the OP is talking of, and you don't know that they are workshy. You are assuming they are.

Which is why I form my opinion I have of posters like you. There you go, point proven.

usualsuspect · 28/10/2011 16:17

oh gawd another benefit bashing thread ,all dressed up as something else

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:17

anyway , have done my bit, am not willing to fight the fight on my own every time threads like these appear.

slavetofilofax · 28/10/2011 16:19

Erm, I know that thanks. But claiming DLA does not automatically mean that you need a carer. Plently of people who are rightfully on DLA are fully independant and have no need for a carer. There are costs associalted with disabilty that DLA is supposed to pay for, that has nothing to do with whether someone needs a carer or not Hmm

usualsuspect · 28/10/2011 16:19

I'm with you fanjo

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:20

thanks usual Wink

pink4ever · 28/10/2011 16:20

fanjobut poster does know them as has called them lazy and bone idle no? I do know that if you cannot work or have no intention of working you shouldnt be having 5 children and expecting everyone else to pay for them.

thunderboltsandlightning · 28/10/2011 16:20

I'm with you too Fanjo. The mean-spirited tone on this thread, which started in the very first post is unpleasant. Clearly a set up to get people to have a go at people on benefits. Bashing disabled people is simply reprehensible.

usualsuspect · 28/10/2011 16:23

yep ,obvious what the first post was aiming for

slavetofilofax · 28/10/2011 16:26

Fanjo, you don't have to fight a fight on your own. This isn't some big battle that you have to try and win, personally, I'm just questioning your opinion that people are benefit bashing (which means bashing everyone on benefits) because they have spotted that there is a chance that the family we are talking about might not really need all the money they are claiming.

I would fight the fight with you if there really was one.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:31

several people ARE benefit bashing, even if you aren't. And I do feel that's worth fighting against.

HappyMummyOfOne · 28/10/2011 16:37

I think anybody who is physically disabled and cannt undertake any form of work deserves state assistance to provide food, warmth and shelter and doubt anybody would disagree.

Its entirely different to have five children knowing you dont intend to work to support them regardless of what benefit they claim. Given the DIL is well enough physically to care for another adult in another household, there is no reason at all for the DH not to work and maybe the DIL herself could do some form of work with an employer who can work around her disability.

pink4ever · 28/10/2011 16:40

Cant believe I am going to say this but I agree with happymummyShock

usualsuspect · 28/10/2011 16:43

The frothers united Wink

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:43

you two are a match made in heaven, you can bond over your copies of the Daily Mail

JamieComeHome · 28/10/2011 16:46

Don't despair Fanjo

slavetofilofax · 28/10/2011 16:51

IF we have been able to put two and two together correctly and happymummy is right in her asumption, how can you arge that she is wrong?

I'm genuinely interested because I just don't get it.

pink4ever · 28/10/2011 16:51

fanjo-daily mail, right wing,tory? -Is that really the best you can do?

usualsuspect · 28/10/2011 16:54

Because its so easy to get a job ,theres millions out there ,but why would you when you can get £1000000000000000000000 a week in benefits

slavetofilofax · 28/10/2011 16:55

It does sound like this DIL is claiming cares allowance because she is someone elses carer, as well as having someone claim it to care for her. That does seem strange. It seems so strange that it can't be true, but if it is true, surely there is something very wrong with that?

ColdToast · 28/10/2011 16:57

"maybe the DIL herself could do some form of work with an employer who can work around her disability."

I'd love to know where these wonderful employers are. Many will offer an interview to a person with a declared disability because they don't want to be accused of discrimination. When it comes to actually giving the person a job, it's a whole different ball game.

usualsuspect · 28/10/2011 16:57

I know ,op is unbelievable really

NotQuiteSoDesperate · 28/10/2011 16:57

I "love" the idea that it is simply a matter of a disabled person getting a job and then everything would be OK. If only it were that easy! My son is 21, has ASD, and no-one will give him a chance. Have you not noticed that we are in a recession with massive levels of unemployment, particularly young people?

So, yes, he does claim benefits - what else is he supposed to do? And I work full-time for that matter, supporting my family on my wage as DH is disabled too and totally unable to work.

One day all this could happen to the disability bashers - we never thought for a moment we would end up like this. But when had a disabled son, then DH became ill...

One car crash, one physical illness, one serious mental illness and it could be your family in a situation like this.