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AIBU?

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AIBU? DIL says I am

263 replies

EmmaInADilemma · 28/10/2011 10:25

Bit of background first. I'm retired, mediocre pension but I do a little bit of part time work. I own my own house outright. I'm comfortable but not particularly flush with money in the bank.

I have two sons, mid 30's. One is married, both DS and DIL have reasonable jobs, mortgaged to the hilt and their one DGS is at primary school. I help out where I can. I can do some of the wrap round care. I baby sit when asked, which is infrequently as they rarely go out as they don't have the spare cash for a hectic social life. The nature of my PT job allows me to have DGS most of the holidays thus avoiding expensive clubs. They rarely go on holiday certainly never abroad on expensive holidays. DGS isn't materially spoilt because a they cant afford it and b they just aren't the sort of people to indulge in must have gadgets cell phones or consoles

My other son is in a relationship. Not married. She has two from a previous relationship which my son treats as his own and I treat them as my own GC. They have a further three DC together. Neither of them work. She's never worked and I can't remember the last time he worked with any regularity. So they are both home to do school drop and pick up. They call in and out of my house several times a week either with or without the children. If Im going into town I will call and see if DIL wants to meet me for coffee etc. We have a good relationship. These GDC do have every conceivable gadget going. Even the 7yo has a blackberry. They think nothing of taking the DGC out of school and going abroad to get cheap flights and accomodation. They know the offer of babysitting is there if they need it and the younger ones do come over in the holidays too.

So. Christmas is coming. I asked DIL what the children wanted this year and that I was thinking of buying other DGC a laptop as a one off special present. I know DS and his DIL just couldn't afford something like that. So she said along the lines of thats nice but it will be expensive buying 6 laptops. I said that wasn't what I meant and her DC have all the gadgets and I certainly couldnt afford a present bill of nearly £2,000 and she had to be sensible about what I could afford.

Then the resentment came out. I favoured one DGC over the other five (I don't) that I do more for my other son and DIL than I do for them, that I pander and babysit at the drop of hat and it was all awfully unfair. I was shocked. I never knew she harboured all this. If the boot was on the other foot and she worked I would be picking up her DC from school and having them in the holidays. If they were strapped for cash I would try to help out where I could. But the simple fact is, they aren't and have quite an affluent lifestyle in comparison and don't need my help as much.

I really dont think I was being unfair or exercising favouritism by buying one child, who has very little, something nice when all his cousins already have the same thing (and more).

AIBU?

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Dexifehatz · 28/10/2011 15:58

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FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 15:59

oh, a real charmer

slavetofilofax · 28/10/2011 16:00

MrsDeVeerie, you are probably right, my friend is amazing and I can well see that she is likely to be the exception rather than the rule. How she has coped with settling in her class of year 7's over the last few weeks, I don't know, but from what she has told me she has done extremely well, although she has found it challenging!

Karma has a good point. Although we are going slighty off topic, but that's to be expected.

Fanjo, people cannot be immune to questioning or even critisism just because they recieve DLA. It is part of the welfare state that we all live with and contribute towards. It is ours. We should be allowed to question it without automatically being accused of bashing anyone who is on benefit.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:02

questioning, possibly, there is more than that here with references to "lazy" and "workshy", to ignore that is being a bit obtuse.

fedupofnamechanging · 28/10/2011 16:02

I don't think that anyone is saying that the children deserve less because their parents don't work. What they are saying is that the dc of the non working parents already have access to a laptop and the need of the other child is greater in that respect, because he doesn't.

I'm sure it is hard looking after 5 dc, especially as 2 of them are disabled. But the fact remains that their parents chose to have a large family. Stands to reason that they will be more knackered than if they just had the one.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:03

karma - yes people ARE saying that, and loads of other offensive stuff too.

slavetofilofax · 28/10/2011 16:03

Not from every poster that has questioned it there isn't, and you are making out that everyone who questions it is in some way wrong to do so.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:04

i've made my point anyway. Some people wouldn't understand unless they became disabled themselves or their kids were.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:05

no I'm not. I think you seem intelligent, you can pick out the posts which I am finding offensive and wrong from those which are merely questioning in an interested manner (although I did personally find you had an air of believing them to be claiming falsely, to be completely honest).

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:07

there is a definite air of "dont buy anything for the workshy lot" permeating this thread. And I don't see how ANYONE can deny it. And it's frankly a bit depressing. And I work! I just have a modicum of sympathy for those who can't, which seems very lacking on MN these days.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:07

there's just not a lot of kindness around.

This is my new mantra and I say it often on here.

pink4ever · 28/10/2011 16:07

Oh here we go again posters accusing others of being benefit bashers when they raise perfectly valid points because after all there really is no such thing as a benefit scroungerHmm

Being deaf is not a severe disability imo-I am partially deaf, my gf was deaf-he worked for 60 years. If the dil has a such severe deafness that she really cannot work in any job then she shouldnt have had 5 children-simples. I would love to have 5 children but we cant afford itSad

Benegfits are there as a safety net-they were not meant as a way of life. And no being on benefits does not entitle you to bring home an income in the region of £50,000. My dh works 16 hour days and earns less than that and then you wonder why people get pissed off with the state of the welfare system.

Also I dont believe having adhd,aspergers etc should stop you trying to get a job. If my dh had a pound for every criminal he has dealt with who tells him they have sn we would be as rich as these scroungers.

YABU in not telling your ds to stop having dcs that everyone else has to pay for.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:08

ANyway am off, seems i always get a flaming and people who write right wing tosh seem to get away with it.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:09

see above for right wing tosh.

Not that it surprises me coming from that particular poster

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:09
pink4ever · 28/10/2011 16:10

fanjo-got a problem with me?

pink4ever · 28/10/2011 16:11

Right wing tosh-how orginal. Do you call yourself a socialist by any chanceGrin

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:11

no, an opinion on you

MollyMurphy · 28/10/2011 16:12

YANBU if you do something special now and again for all the other DC in turn.

Your DIL is being unreasonable commenting on a gift that is none of her business and has nothing whatsoever to do with her. The babysitting is also none of her business. I would be peeved at her attitude.

fedupofnamechanging · 28/10/2011 16:13

It does appear though that the son is claiming carers allowance for someone who doesn't seem to need it, given that she herself is carrying out that role (and claiming for it) for 3 other people. Having a disability doesn't automatically mean that some people won't milk the system.

And I do think it's wrong to have 5 children that you have no hope/intention of ever financially supporting. I've yet to read anything here that explains why the son cannot work.

That doesn't mean that I think the dc deserve less because the parents aren't working.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:13

yet again..i know there are loads of decent MNers around but only a few of us stand up to posts like pink4evers and get flamed for it, while others stay out of it.

Sad
pink4ever · 28/10/2011 16:13

Why because I have pointed out something that you dont like?

slavetofilofax · 28/10/2011 16:14

I don't believe anything about these people, I don't know anywhere near enough about them. And while I don't think that they could be claiming DLA falsely, as I know how hard it is to get, the same is not true of Carers Allowance. It is far easier to falsely claim CA than it is DLA, so there is a possibility that that is whats happening. I'm not bashing everyone on disability benefits just because I come across as if I think that could be a possibility.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:14

i don't call myself anything.

Anyway, flame me if you like, I am glad to stand up to poisonous, hatemongering posts like yours.

FanjoForTheMuahahammaries · 28/10/2011 16:14

pink- no, I have never spoken to you before, just seen your posts and formed my opinion.