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Pornography

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oohlaalaa · 26/10/2011 14:23

An ex boyfriend put on a porn DVD. I was so enraged I finished with him.

It seemed to me, that this young mixed up girl (looked like she was about 17 or 18 to me) was being taken advantage of, and had been manipulated into it. I could not believe that this girl would want a gang bang, with the finale being three men ejaculating on her face. Euugh.

I found it misogynistic and exploitative. I'm not a prudish nutcase usually.

A bit of titillation in Mags lads has never bothered me, neither have lap dancing clubs. It was the power over woman I hated, in this DVD. It focused on the women's face and body, but not his.

Am I being unreasonable to think that pornography is exploitative to women, and hating how women are portrayed in hardcore porn?

Before you go judging me for watching this cr*p, it was about ten years ago. I ask this question now, as one of my friends said that she'd binned her boyfriends DVD stash, when she moved in with him.

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MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 18:52

stewie then why the fuck get upset by a simple, out of context paragraph?

I think you need toget your nickers untwisted. You seem to have an issue where one is not needed.

If my comment was bad then do you not think everyone else would of loved to of jumped on it? exspecially because i wrote it too. Or maybe you have just got it wrong??

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MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 18:58

i still think you are wrong, and still do not see why you think it is Misogynistic, but i am glad you dropped the homophobic bit.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 18:59

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MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 19:00

i also think you are rude to say i hate women.

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MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 19:02

ha ha your really bored tonight arnt you. I be honest i have just googled what heteronormative means. Why do you think i only agree with straight sex? Where have i ever said that?

MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 19:04

i think you will find i have not made one hatefuil statement. in fact you have made that up.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 19:05

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Lifeissweet · 26/10/2011 19:13

Sorry to interrupt the argument discussion between MrSpoc and StewieGriffinsMom, but I think there are a few people on this thread who are getting a little bit confused between being against porn and being against adventurous sex.

I am very much against porn for a lot of reasons - mainly to do with objectification of women (most of what I have seen seems to focus on the woman's body and not the man's - apart from the penis) and ethical considerations having read accounts of porn actors and their experiences.

However, if you are at all interested, I have a varied and exciting sex life and it isn't all vanilla. I just think the kind of porn described by the OP is exploitative. The shots of men coming on women's faces I find bizarre. Ok - I know someone is about to come on here and tell me that they love it, but what on Earth can a woman get out of that situation? It strikes me as a particularly disrespectful thing to do to someone.

Even if you don't mind doing that yourself, you are watching 3 different men, who have sex with lots of different women ejaculating their bodily fluids completely freely onto a woman's face - into her mouth and eyes. That has serious worries for me in terms of diseases and infections. I don't think that's acceptable for a 'professional' hazard.

I could rant on and on about this, but I really did just want to point out that a dislike of porn is not the same thing as being sexually naive or vanilla.

WhereCamelsFearToTread · 26/10/2011 19:17

I have read only bits of the thread (am going back as do love to read SGM) however, I agree that porn is disgusting...but so is topless modelling and lap dancing etc.

I don't think you can differentiate between them. They all exploit women and fund horrific illegal organisations.

MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 19:20

StewieGriffinsMomWed - what are you on about. why do you keep taking things out of context/ the op has already stated she has a boyfriend and also a husband, i think it is safe to assume she is not a lesbian.

Seriously i understand you do not like me, but why make shit up? just say spock i dont like you, you are a cock, i would have more respect for you.

MoaninMinny · 26/10/2011 19:21

would you be outraged if it were a dominatrix whipping a bound man?

LadyEvenstarsCoven · 26/10/2011 19:21

worralibertyWed 26-Oct-11 15:34:41

For goodness sake, I'd be surprised if you found a woman, who wanted three men to ejaculate on her face, and during the sex act call her a bitch

Then you are Very sheltered let me tell you

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 19:21

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WhereCamelsFearToTread · 26/10/2011 19:29

"...the op discribed a group sex orgie with a women having sperm on her face. How does that sound like rape?

You could be right and that she was forced into it but i doubt that is the case..."

it sounds like rape when it's described as being pinned down and gangbanged. The majority of female "stars" in the porn industry as usually trafficked...sadly this means they are forced into it...despite how you want to dress it up.

Lifeissweet · 26/10/2011 19:31

I know I could bang on (pun unintended) about this for ages, but also, for those of you talking about free choice, I would like to question how much an 18/19 year old really knows about what she's getting herself into?

When I was 17/18 I was a groupie. I used to hang around outside backstage areas and shagging mediocre rock stars - sometimes not one at a time. I thought I knew what I was doing. I was convinced I was in control and not in any danger. I thought it was empowering. I knew nothing - and when I think about it now it makes my blood run cold. i was being exploited - even though I was up for it. I didn't understand what I was doing to myself. I don't think this is any different.

The power balance in porn is all wrong too - it's mainly young girls and older men. It scares me.

That is all for now.

and thanks, StewieGriffinsMom Smile

MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 19:31

yes there is a massive differance between porn and sex. I agree with you there Stewie, but Op made it about sex when she started spouting stuff about being a prude and who would like dirty talk or rough sex etc.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 19:33

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EllaDee · 26/10/2011 19:35

You're obviously unable to read. She said she's not usually a prude.

oohlaalaa · 27/10/2011 09:52

MrSpoc - I don't have a boyfriend and a husband. Just a DH. I was talking about previous boyfriend. It is very offensive and misogynistic, to tell someone they need a good rodgering.

Lifeissweet - I had a few one night stands as a teenager, and wouldn't now. I was just following the crowd. The blokes I had the one night stands with, never dated me. I didn't feel empowered by it. The prudishness with only having one loving and supportive partner has come with maturity.

You are right it was dirty old men, and very young looking girl. The cameras focused on the girl. I don't think I'd have found ejaculating on her chest so offensive, it was the fact it was on the face that horrified me. It just made her seem like they considered her dirt, and she was badly treated.

StewieGriffinsMomWed - Thank you. I think you have made some good points.

I was only 18 when I watched this DVD, and didn't know I was anti-porn or a feminist. It just shocked me that the men were so nasty to the girl, and people got off on this.

I'm not surprised to learn that so many of these girls are trafficked.

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oohlaalaa · 27/10/2011 10:14

To all those defending porn, having read this, decided I'm against it:

www.shelleylubben.com/ex-porn-star-corina-taylor-story

No I don't have issues with sex, but I do have issues with women being exploited.

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