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Pornography

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oohlaalaa · 26/10/2011 14:23

An ex boyfriend put on a porn DVD. I was so enraged I finished with him.

It seemed to me, that this young mixed up girl (looked like she was about 17 or 18 to me) was being taken advantage of, and had been manipulated into it. I could not believe that this girl would want a gang bang, with the finale being three men ejaculating on her face. Euugh.

I found it misogynistic and exploitative. I'm not a prudish nutcase usually.

A bit of titillation in Mags lads has never bothered me, neither have lap dancing clubs. It was the power over woman I hated, in this DVD. It focused on the women's face and body, but not his.

Am I being unreasonable to think that pornography is exploitative to women, and hating how women are portrayed in hardcore porn?

Before you go judging me for watching this cr*p, it was about ten years ago. I ask this question now, as one of my friends said that she'd binned her boyfriends DVD stash, when she moved in with him.

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maypole1 · 26/10/2011 16:50

to be honest i am far more kinky now i am married that i was when i was 16, 18 because i care far less what people think so totally agree mr spoc

i just think op might be sexually naive and inexperienced

MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 16:53

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Temperatures · 26/10/2011 16:56

The radical feminism is strong with this one...

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 17:03

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moonshineandspellbooks · 26/10/2011 17:03

I think it's vitally important to separate two issues about porn:

  1. What it is.
  2. Who features in it.

It is quite possible to think that porn (which I'll define as people having sex on screen for the sake of this thread) is acceptable. There is nothing inherently wrong with people either wanting to perform sex in front of a camera or people wanting to watch other people having sex on screen.

It's also possible to think that the number of abused/exploited women who feature in porn films is unacceptably high (which it is - somewhere above 70% I believe) and that quite a lot of porn is damaging to women in the way that it objectifies and degrades them.

The two beliefs are not incompatible. The question is how you reconcile them. Some people choose to make/watch 'ethical' porn only. Others choose to boycott porn completely. Others choose to deny that there is a problem at all.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 17:05

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MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 17:08

thanks stewie, i just knew you would pipe up

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 17:10

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MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 17:12

no it doesnt, stop trying to bring stupid things if, you obviously have not read the whole thread.

Op is oblivious to other peoples sexuality. She cannot comprahend that some women enjoy rough sex, dirty talk and has even said she is a prude. My comment was a JOKE and meant may be she needs to experiment, but trust you to find a stupid meaning to it.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 17:22

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oohlaalaa · 26/10/2011 18:04

Thank you StewieGriffinsMom, you are quite right.

MrSpoc - I have a DH who satisfies my needs. Smile

moonshineandspellbooks. I totally agree, with your comment. I have no issue with two people having sex and filming it for others too watch, it's how the woman is treated, that horrifies me.

The particular film I saw, I found degrading. I might not have been outraged if it was ethical porn.

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ShriekingLisa · 26/10/2011 18:07
HecateGoddessOfTheNight · 26/10/2011 18:11

why don't you feel the same way about lapdancing? when many of the women in the industry are really really exploited too?

worraliberty · 26/10/2011 18:11

So people should only enjoy being fucked the way you think they should be?

If they enjoy being talked dirty to, double penetration or any kind of sex you see as not 'mainstream' or romantic...you don't like the idea of it?

Simple solution...don't watch them in a porn film.

Thingumy · 26/10/2011 18:16

agree Worral.

Thingumy · 26/10/2011 18:17

maybe they do have ethical bukkake porn out there OP?

MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 18:17

StewieGriffinsMom - no one has met any of the Op's that is the point.

Lacking in empathy for what exactly, for the Op's sensibilities or that fact the Op is agaisnt anything out of the norm?

I still fail to see why my comment is homophobic or misogynistic and the fact she mentions an ex boyfirend kind of give's the game away that she is not gay / lesbian etc.

So jog on and find something else to be offended by because i dont think anyone else has been offended by my comment.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 18:21

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MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 18:24

you could find offence when you are alone in a locked room.

The term and in the context i used, does NOT mean to rape someone at all.

I am sorry if you have been raped, but that comment does not mean to go out and rape someone.

thunderboltsandlightning · 26/10/2011 18:31

People who have been in the porn industry say you're right OP, so YANBU:

www.shelleylubben.com/

What's odd is that people here are saying that you can't assume anything, but they are all happy if they watch porn to assume consent and no exploitation or coercion. What you describe sounds like a rape, and as there's no reason to think it wasn't you're better off trusting your own reactions. There's lots of rape in the porn and prostitution industries.

MrSpoc · 26/10/2011 18:36

the op discribed a group sex orgie with a women having sperm on her face. How does that sound like rape?

You could be right and that she was forced into it but i doubt that is the case.

thunderboltsandlightning · 26/10/2011 18:40

"It seemed to me, that this young mixed up girl (looked like she was about 17 or 18 to me) was being taken advantage of, and had been manipulated into it."

People are so fucking callous from pornography these days that they can't see what's in front of their face. Read the Shelley Lubben website and then tell me why you're doubting that the OP could have seen rape in a porn movie.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/10/2011 18:42

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