Pornography

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An ex boyfriend put on a porn DVD. I was so enraged I finished with him.

It seemed to me, that this young mixed up girl (looked like she was about 17 or 18 to me) was being taken advantage of, and had been manipulated into it. I could not believe that this girl would want a gang bang, with the finale being three men ejaculating on her face. Euugh.

I found it misogynistic and exploitative. I'm not a prudish nutcase usually.

A bit of titillation in Mags lads has never bothered me, neither have lap dancing clubs. It was the power over woman I hated, in this DVD. It focused on the women's face and body, but not his.

Am I being unreasonable to think that pornography is exploitative to women, and hating how women are portrayed in hardcore porn?

Before you go judging me for watching this cr*p, it was about ten years ago. I ask this question now, as one of my friends said that she'd binned her boyfriends DVD stash, when she moved in with him.

TheQueenOfDeDead - there is no proper discussion/ debate as I don't have any facts / statistics. It's just my thoughts/ feelings, of not liking porn and finding it misogynistic.

I've not gone and interviewed a load of pornstars, before posting on here.

Yes Op your are wrong.

what is an mh poster? Mentally healthy?

Of course you can have a proper discussion/debate.

You clearly have an opinion and/or an agenda but I am afraid it is being lost by the irritatingly passive agressive "perhaps I'm wrongly connecting pornstars with low self esteem" stuff you keep posting.

You have an opinion:own it.

Sadly I think women are far more insulting and nasty when it comes to starting rumours/giving nasty nicknames to women who they see as promiscuous. A lot of women put men to shame when it comes to judging those who enjoy a healthy yet 'alternative' sex life.

Some refuse to 'live and let live' and accept that a woman might want to be spanked/whipped/talked dirty to/take part in group sex....preferring instead to convince themselves she's been 'conditioned' to simply think she enjoys it.

IMO women who convince themselves other women don't know their own minds because they enjoy what's sometimes considered to be 'kinky' sex, are actually more controlling than the men they claim condition all these free thinking women.

I've reported one of my last comments, as I regretted it, as soon as I'd posted it. Darn internet, too easy to press enter. I'm sorry for any offence I caused.

Agree worra - women are far harder on other women
than men ever are.

You haven't said anything offensive in any of your posts

Yes i agree worra, just watch educating essex. The girls in that are horrendous with each other.

There is nothing wrong with porn. Why get so het up about it? My DP and I both enjoy watching it. Do you feel threatened by the women starring in it?

I don't like pornography and I believe some people are exploited in the making of it. But at the same time I cannot accept that the women who are queuing up to make these films are all suffering from low self esteem or are under the control of men. I just cannot. I am angry with some of them for wanting to be involved, but I don't see them all as victims, no way.

I would have no problem at all with pornography if it wasn't so violent and degrading and full of hate language directed at women. If it could all be vanilla and harmless then I'd have no problem with it, frankly!

Exactly MrSpoc I was watching last week with my 12yr old DS and he said a lot of the girls are the same in his school.

Just mindless judging because someone else enjoys different things to them.

I'm accepting that a woman knows her own mind at 21 or over. I just think young woman, teenagers especially, always do. I certainly didn't.

The girl in the film was there for the men's pleasure, and let herself be degraded and humiliated very publicly. I found myself worrying, that she may not have consented, or been advised of all the facts/implications.

Bibbitybobbity:

"If it could all be vanilla and harmless then I'd have no problem with it, frankly."

Yes, if it could be a couple frolicking, and being loving and nice to each other, I don't think I'd have minded either.

Bucket,village bicycle...

Nice.

worraliberty - I didn't like the comments I made on stepdad, incase someone had been through something similar. I forgot I don't know the people who are on this forum, and may not have had same childhood, that I did. I read it back, and it was quite judgy.

Like bibbity's post.

Thingumy - I'm just repeating things I've heard said. I don't agree with the use of these words. It's just how male chauvanistic society can be, whether we like it or not. I have a dislike for the word slut too.

maybe if you think before you post OP

It's not difficult to be tactful huh unless you enjoy being tactless....

I like bibbity's post too. I'm sure not all pornstars are being exploited.

so what age do women start to know their own mind? 18, 20, 21?

at 16 people are legally an adult. can make adult decisons but in Porn people have to be 18.

So i presume at 18 people (men & women) can make their own mind up.

also with regards to age and making up your own mind. Poeple can join the Army at 16 and serve on the front line at 18. Im sure they can make their own mind up.

I think that at 18, 19, 20, I thought I knew everything, and made a few fuck-ups, and was easily led. At 21, I was a bit more my own person, if that makes sense. We're all different.

i understand but peoples views change constantly. What i thought and belived at 21 was different to when i was 25. Now i am 29 (and coming onto MN) My views about most things have changed.

You views change all the time, i bet in 10 years time your views will change again (not nesseserily about porn)

Thing is - you have to cater for all the BDSM people - and there's loads of them.