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To evict my tenants?

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iloveeverton · 11/10/2011 18:17

We rent a flat to a couple who are having a baby end of January. They have a six-month contract that ends at the same time.

The rent is always late and underpaid each month.

I want to serve notice to leave at the end of tenancy. Dh thinks it's unfair due to baby arriving at the same time. I have allowed then to pay weekly and they will be given two months notice.

Dh thinks they will have nowhere to go and I'm being heartless. Am I?

OP posts:

ilovesprouts · 14/10/2011 09:15

talking about land lords my dd rents a house shes on hb payes extra £25 per month ,found out LL an ex copper who got sacked for growing weed in his empty homes ,its a right bloody place ,moldy cupbords ,wet walls old plugs sockets etc ... he wont do anything so now enviro are involved ,now he keeps ringing her up and swearing down the fone ,he also toild her that he wants the rent paying to him insted of her and told my dd to tell em she was a druggie wtf

fedupdownhere · 14/10/2011 09:44

Margery I was behind with my rent as I paid 4 weekly but it ment my rent was a week late in being paid for 3 months, they served me with an intention to seek Possession Order which allows them now to take me to court at anytime in the next year if my rent was a day late or even a penny short :(

margerykemp · 14/10/2011 10:09

But then you just go to court and argue that they are being unreasonable. Going to court doesn't mean automatic eviction. I've known tenants with court orders against them who are still living in their properties YEARS later.

fedupdownhere · 14/10/2011 11:11

Margery that is very interesting we ended up getting a very very high interest loan to make sure we where ahead, they where very nasty about it and said they would evict if it wasnt sorted and have said they will seek eviction if we get behind even by a day

breadandbutterfly · 14/10/2011 13:57

I hope all those of you who would chuck this couple out with no compunction never get a penny late with your mortgages. As if you do, clearly you would not dream of trying to negotiate with your lenders stay on in your homes for a minute longer, let alone accept the taxpayers' largesse - you would just leap out onto the street with your newborn baby in your arms.

It seems very likely that the cause of this couple being unable to pay the rent is connected to the pregnancy, rather than an unrelated coincidence. There are any number of women who can't continue working full-time or at all when pregnant - would you have them all homeless as well as suffering from pregnancy-related symptoms?

What a lovely lot you are - and you wonder why tenants view landlords in such a bad light.

WhereYouLeftIt · 14/10/2011 14:12

And she's back!

It seems very likely that the cause of this couple being unable to pay the rent is connected to both of them giving up paid employment as soon as they moved in.

loveglove · 14/10/2011 14:22

*I hope all those of you who would chuck this couple out with no compunction never get a penny late with your mortgages. As if you do, clearly you would not dream of trying to negotiate with your lenders stay on in your homes for a minute longer, let alone accept the taxpayers' largesse - you would just leap out onto the street with your newborn baby in your arms. hmm

What a lovely lot you are - and you wonder why tenants view landlords in such a bad light.*

Haha, you have made up the facts of this story to suit your own ends!

No money is due to giving up paid work to start own business which failed. Nothing to do with pregnancy.

Minus273 · 14/10/2011 14:22

bread I am in support of the OP and I was made homeless at 7months pregnant. I couldn't pay so that's what happens.

I for one don't view LL in a bad light only bad LL in a bad LL and AFAIC the OP does not fall into this category.

LydiaWickham · 14/10/2011 14:27

Bread that could explain why she gave up her job, not why he would give up his...

I've also never been late with my mortgage payment or paid less than I should, but then I don't know anyone who's mortgage doesn't go out on a direct debit so you'd have to actively change it for it to go a day late...

while I might try to negotiate to stay longer, that's because I own this house, when I was renting before, I might be more inclined when pregnant to ask if I could get the move done before hte baby came without having to pay penalities for leaving early - but then the OP has offered the couple this option, they have decided to stay until the end of the contract.

Quite frankly, if htey can't put a roof over their own heads, they should either be asking the state or family to do it for them, not random stranger who had the misfortune to rent them a property.

Minus273 · 14/10/2011 14:28

Oh and BTW I am getting no help whatsoever from the council I was in fact told there is always shop doorways in fact.

I do not blame the LL.

Even if we assume the woman in this couple quit working due to ill health(she could legally have gone on sick leave and yes I know not everyone gets paid) it does not excuse her DP quitting his job. In fact it makes him quitting his job even more stupid. They have not tried to negotiate or find a way round teh problems they have done nothing.

bread IMO you have deliberately chosen to ignore the fact that many of those on this thread who are supporting the OP are in fact tenants or former tenants. Some of them, including me have even ended up homeless at some point. However that doesn't fit you rhetoric does it?

Seabird72 · 14/10/2011 14:30

well done for not being a mug - I rented my home out for 3 years to someone who I considered a friend - she pulled that card on me constantly with late rent - half payments etc - despite the fact the rent we charged was only half our mortgage repayments and we had to pay rent on our place (moved out of the area due to work) - when she finally decided to leave on her own accord because I wouldn't replace something she removed from the property without permission, she left the place in a horrible state with alot of damage which her despoit didn't begin to cover. Don't fall for sob stories. You still have to pay the mortgage and whilst their situation is sad and I feel sorry for them to be struggling so mcuh - we all have out problems and are struggling financially but you're the one whose house will be repossessed if you cannot make the repayments on time.

DejaWho · 14/10/2011 14:33

Ignore the looney anti-landlord troll. Seriously get loads of them around housing forums who think anyone who rents a house out is automatically a Dickensian villain who'd have their tenants on a giant hamster wheel generating electricity for them to sell in return for an umbrella over their head given half the chance.

Ex tenant - of some fab landlords and some lousy landlords and nope never a day late with the mortgage or rent because it's set to come out the day after wages go IN - you just do NOT fuck up having a roof over your head, especially when there are dependants in on the equation.

They've brought it on themselves.

kelly2000 · 14/10/2011 15:43

Bread,
She quit her job to start a business as did her partner. If you do something like this the risk is yours.
If the renters do not pay, the mortgage does not disappear the LL has to pay it, and if they cannot due to lack of rent they lose the house, lose their money, risk bankrupty meaning everything their own is sold to pay the banks etc, not the renters.
I also bet they have to pay for their own food, no doubt the shop keepers should be giving this to them for free.

And again, feel free to pay their rent, or buy the flat from the landlord. Until you do this you have no right to lecture someone else on how lovely they are. No-one is stopping you paying their rent.

HerScaryness · 14/10/2011 15:48

bread, do pack it in eh love? your ground is very shaky!

It's tenants like these that give other tenants a bad name! They are already 6 WEEKS behind. 2 more and they can be evicted for non-payment.

Who HERE can go 2m without paying their mortgage, or 2m without getting a salary and just take it in their stride?

yes there are total bastard LLs, but there are also bad tenants, ones that take the piss, or who refuse to take responsibility for themselves. You can't give up paid work until you cover bills, or unless you have the money in reserve to cover the bills, and not when there is a baby about to be involved FGS.

The LL here is being forced to invest in a business idea she has nothing to do with, no control over and no say in.

Sleepyspaniel · 15/10/2011 11:11

Dejawho "...who think anyone who rents a house out is automatically a Dickensian villain who'd have their tenants on a giant hamster wheel generating electricity for them to sell in return for an umbrella over their head given half the chance."

Seriously, I just spat my tea out guffawing at this. The imagery conjured up is fantastic. You gotta be a writer by trade??

Yes, and Bread just has to be a troll. Nobody is that naive can also read and write.

Sleepyspaniel · 15/10/2011 11:12

*Nobody who

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