to find some people attitudes, such as "i work hard i deserve it" really sickening

[carriedababi]

was reading some magazine in the dentist, there was a woman from dragons den iin the mag.
saying how she had a wardrode worth 3 million.

and she went onto say well i work hard for it.
so ideserve it.
and something todo with she sees her expensive clothes as a symbol of how sucessful she is.

really made me feel sick, how a horrible nasty attitude to have in life.

i'm sure even if i was a millionaire, i would not be proud about spending that much on clothes.

i don't know its just the arrogant im entitled to this that got me.
and dont they think people how have less also work hard. probably alot of them work alot harder

what do you think

Dandy you OK now I hope?

It's not all luck of course and I hope we are getting there- Dh graduates next year and it will be a special celebration. But it's certainly part of the deal.

Well seeker you must be watching a very differnet XF to me.

Last night none of the contestants wanted to be famous for the sake. They all want to be successful entertainers. Perhaps on planet seeker that's not sufficiently cerebral, but for a lot of people it's what they want to do with their life.

And the contestants are certainly not a smorgasboard of style and beauty. They are mixed bunch, and the ones with the most talent imho are craig who carries a bit too much weight and Janet who though I could eat her with a spoon seems to have absolutely no idea how beautiful she is and certainly is not trying to look provocative - quite the opposite.

Well that sums me up today.
It really really does.

Quite frankly, I think those people are very insecure and "buy" their worth.

Spending millions on anything, whether it is clothes or houses is obscene.

That's why I admire Bill Gates, at least he does worthwhile stuff with his money.

Do we know she doesn't give to charity- actually no we already said she does. A carer's charity.

She's had a stroke, is it really hard to come up with ideas why clothing might be important to her?

My bog standard comp must have been very forward thinking for its time. I did computer studies back in 1987 in my first year of senior school. Totally irrelevant to the thread, of course.

I knew someone who got his Computer Science degree in 1971

I was using email (but we called it something else) in 1989

We called it PROFS but that was a proprietary name. I used it to communicate with my colleagues in the UK and overseas. Some of our trade contacts (manufacturers and shipping agents) were also on our network, but it was not open to the public.

minipie, it sounds rosy with dh but I do get frustrated if I think he's not doing his fair share so believe me it's not as perfect as it sounds! We are a good team though and ambitious and determined as I am, there is no way that I could juggle even half as much without dh's full support, so do make sure that you are both very clear on what the plan is and who is doing what. You are right in that my seniority means that I don't have to draft/initiate anything as I am the reviewer, so other people work around me (btw I don't want to out myself but notice I said "equivalent" ). While everything has worked out, I was very lucky that we didn't have trouble conceiving when we decided to start a family as I spent my early 30s convinced that this would be the case and it felt like a big gamble. I wish you the very best of luck with ttc. :)

I'd be thrilled lequeen if people remembered so many details of what I said.

It's very flattering, don't you think?

Thinking on it, we had BBC computers at our primary school, and I distinctly remember the visit from a robot. We must have been around 8 (so 1983ish) and we were told robots would be in every house by the turn of the next century.

I had a mate who went to a Steiner school. He is an IT consultant now. I guess they'd turn him away from the alumni dinners.

Usenet? ARPAnet? Notes?

What is a Steiner school? I vaguely know, but don't know specifics.

Anyway, lequeen now I've got you, what is your definition of an entrepreneur and to what extent to do credit luck to success?

try this

Quick! Run, the Steiner crowd will pile in any minute with their cut and pasted arguments.