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to find some people attitudes, such as "i work hard i deserve it" really sickening

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carriedababi · 06/10/2011 11:08

was reading some magazine in the dentist, there was a woman from dragons den iin the mag.
saying how she had a wardrode worth 3 million.

and she went onto say well i work hard for it.
so ideserve it.
and something todo with she sees her expensive clothes as a symbol of how sucessful she is.

really made me feel sick, how a horrible nasty attitude to have in life.

i'm sure even if i was a millionaire, i would not be proud about spending that much on clothes.

i don't know its just the arrogant im entitled to this that got me.
and dont they think people how have less also work hard. probably alot of them work alot harder

what do you think

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TwoIfBySea · 07/10/2011 22:25

It wasn't that woman with the big shoulder pads was it? If so I think I know where the money is.

Why is everyone so down if someone has money? All this bitching and back-biting about who went to what school and has wads of mummy and daddy's cash behind them. Smacks of jealousy tbh.

I wish I had more money to cushion my family against financial hardship. If I had earned a ton of money I'd damn well spend it how I wished. Sure some of it is a bit tasteless and over-the-top but if it is their money, gained legally, then they can buy whatever tat catches their eye.

Wonder if all these mega-millionaire, multi-house owning charity celebs have made people nervy about spending their own cash? I have bugger all but always save like a demon so me and mine can have one decent holiday a year. I'm sure there will be plenty with a problem with me doing that but they can suck on it as I earned it, I'm spending it how I please. (Only ticked off to not quite manage a 40th birthday weekend away - looks like nothing special to happen on b'day again.)

rosycheeksandasmile · 07/10/2011 22:26

I think there is more of a problem with people thinking that they are entitled to the wealth without working for it than what someone is spending their money on.

Surely this is a personal thing - what business is it of ours if someone has a large wardrobe - you might remark on it - but move on.

I honestly don't think it should concern people and if it does, then it is more of an issue for that individual than the person who has the money themselves.

LeQueen · 07/10/2011 22:33

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Roseflower · 07/10/2011 22:36

With all this social mobilty I wonder how we do know what class we are in?

If every generation up to our grandparents or parents, or even us was working class are we still working class? Does marrying "up" make you really move up class?

Its all a bit blurry to me!

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Roseflower · 07/10/2011 22:51

Yes class in an obession!
If you move up a class I wonder if you move down?

As an example, DH would on paper be MC due to his qualification and assets- but when he become redundant and on JSA was he then working class?!

Its all a bit pointless but great fun deciding where you fit in

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limitedperiodonly · 07/10/2011 23:21

Social mobility has as much to do with the explosion in the jobs market in the '60s and then in the '80s as it does with education.

Anyway, can the many people here who keep bandying the word 'entrepreneur' explain what it means to them?

To me it means a person who has started his or her own business. If so, there are quite a lot of them, exalted or not.

If there's any other criteria, I'm all ears.

PigletJohn · 07/10/2011 23:25

"As an example, DH would on paper be MC due to his qualification and assets- but when he become redundant and on JSA was he then working class?!"

No, Class and Money are not the same thing. Class and Income are not at all the same thing.

Roseflower · 07/10/2011 23:36

So what is the defining criteria Piglet? (For class)

It seems all a little grey!

PigletJohn · 07/10/2011 23:42

saying "serviettes" instead of "napkins" used to be one of the clues

but there is no end of ways to decide.i

Roseflower · 07/10/2011 23:45

Dag nab it- that means Im as rough as a bears arse

PigletJohn · 07/10/2011 23:47

do you want to hear the joke about Prince Charles and John Betjeman?

Roseflower · 07/10/2011 23:49

Nah...

Only Kidding, go on Piglet! Im all ears with me napkin on me lap

Roseflower · 07/10/2011 23:49
PigletJohn · 07/10/2011 23:54

Prince Charles wanted to learn about common people, so after a dinner at Mansion House he sneaked out with Betjeman (who was a frightfully common character).

They walked across the road to Mappin and Webb, and Charles was stunned a the vulgarity of the Golden Castles. Then he saw something odd. "I, say, Betjeman" he cried "What are those little silver cylinders for?"

"Well, Sir," replied JB "There are some people who can't afford fresh linen at every meal, so they roll up their napkins after use, and put them in those silver rings ready to use again."

"My God" said Charles "Can there be such poverty?"

PigletJohn · 07/10/2011 23:59

(Mappin and Webb was an upmarket jewellers and goldsmith's shop in the City of London)

Roseflower · 08/10/2011 00:00
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Alouiseg · 08/10/2011 08:05

I avoided this thread at the beginning due to it's chippy opening Hmm It's turned into an interesting and enlightening debate. one point I need to make is having fixed salaries for jobs doesn't incentivise people. However hard they work they cannot earn any more than their agreed salary. Bonuses have become contentious as a reward.

We need to look at ways of incentivising salaries so hard work is rewarded. Entrepreneurs take risks to increase their earning capabilities but a risk won't always culminate in a reward. Overtime needs to be given a 21st century slant and production needs to be rewarded.

marriedinwhite · 08/10/2011 08:45

I have only read the first and last am sure what goes inbetween is very interesting. If someone earns a huge amount of money they are free to spend it as they please in my opinion. However, I'm not sure that I would actually talk about it. I might buy myself something nice but I don't talk about it because it's vulgar and that's what sticks in my craw about the comment. I think it's a bit sad that having spent 3 million she doesn't look a bit more classy.

Xenia · 08/10/2011 09:31

I will be happy the day women dson't support men's careers and then live off male earnings but when women like the woman this thread is about make their own money and don't taken on supportive servant type roles within marital relationships.

You can't make someone posh. It's very hard to gain social mobility in one generation . You can get money in one generation but usually something about how they dress and how they speak gives them away. They mgiht be rich but they won't be posh, not that it really matters. People always divide themselves into groups as it makes them feel better.

Most of us can tell the class of someone within a few minutes of meeting them. There will always be someone above and below us and someone totally different from us. However money doesn't mean higher class.

Bonsoir · 08/10/2011 09:37

"It's very hard to gain social mobility in one generation."

Impossible to gain social mobility in one generation. In fact, there is plenty of evidence that the influence of the social class of your forebears carries on for several generations.