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to be totally fucked off with the antisahm comments on here?

987 replies

slackers · 23/09/2011 19:25

Wtaf are you only a good role model to your DC if you are in paid employment?
Why does someone only be valid in society if they earn?
Why should I work only to pay someone else do a job to look after my DC? wtaf is the logic in that?
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AeolineReed · 28/09/2011 07:57

If you think being a SAHM is bad in right-on MN land, try voting Conservative, reading the Daily Mail, and having children at private schools. I fall into all of the above categories. Grin

Pissfarterleech · 28/09/2011 08:04

True wordfactory for some women.
As always, everyone has to look to their own circumstances to work out what is best.

wordfactory · 28/09/2011 08:12

Sadly, the majority.

That's not to say of course that one must work to avoid penuary...but I do think it's extremely important for woemn to know and accept the risks. The same with lack of pension provision in old age.

Pissfarterleech · 28/09/2011 08:18

Agreed wordfactory.

QuickLookBusy · 28/09/2011 09:23

Xenia

Your justification of making such disgusting remarks about SN people is so so out of order.

I would report your post for being so offensive but I'd rather leave it so others can see what a complete you are.

QuickLookBusy · 28/09/2011 09:25

Sorry missed a word out, should have been a c* in there.

Pissfarterleech · 28/09/2011 09:27

I love having children I can have debates with and indeed love socialising with clever interestnig people and find it quite a trial to tolerate dull conversationalists.

Are you going to put that on the back cover of your latest book, Xenia? Or maybe as a tagline on your website?

jellybeans · 28/09/2011 09:52

'If you know your own choices on the whole are better for women, children and the cause of women (ie working and having a famly) then it behoves one to trumpet that cause at every opportunity.'

But Xenia, it is still your opinion. You seem to concentrate on those with high flying careers. What about those with dull crappy jobs? is that betetr for them/their kids? Or does it just make some WOHM feel better as they needn't feel guilty if everyone is leaving their kids in childcare? That is the reason I believe that a minority of WOHM slate SAHM. It may be subconscious though for some.

Xenia, would you still work if you had a minimum wage job? If you became disabled?

I personally find people with SN as worthy of conversation (and often much nicer people) as any other. If that makes me dull so be it.

Pissfarterleech · 28/09/2011 10:21

Look, Xenia doesn't have the choices many other women have. She has to work or live on benefits so yunno, her opinion is so skewed it comes out of her arse.

ScarahStratton · 28/09/2011 10:42

Ohhh, you mean she's talking shit?

Pagwatch · 28/09/2011 10:52

Anyone who thinks that a profession or a high flying career equates to sparkling conversation has never been at a city cocktail event .

People are dull or fabulous. What they do all day has very little to do with it.

Have you ever heard anyone say ' I went out with 5 directors of a top firm of accountants. It was just the best fun I ever had. no, really! '

Yellowstone · 28/09/2011 10:55

Did you contest the £900K and lose Xenia? Or was that a limited win?

Yellowstone · 28/09/2011 10:59

I seem to be alone in the dark as to who RL Xenia is? Clues warmly welcome, I'd really like to read her CV.

ScarahStratton · 28/09/2011 11:03

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scottishmummy · 28/09/2011 11:08

wind your neck in.honestly so what you disagree with xenia posts
thats not a reason to go off googling and scratching around to get details. its creepy to carry a mn gripe like that. really nothing ehre should irk that much and if it does maybe time to step back from mn and have a breather

laptoplover · 28/09/2011 11:11

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Yellowstone · 28/09/2011 11:21

Oh scottishmummy chill out. Everyone knows who she is it seems except me. I wanted to see if we'd been in the same place at the same time, no harm there. I agree with plenty of what she says, and disagree vehemently with the rest. It's idle curiosity, completely benign.

OK Xenia you definitely win on best house.

ScarahStratton · 28/09/2011 11:22

Tbh I was purely curious. I don't agree at all with what she's stated on this thread, but this is the only thread I've seen her on, so I can hardly hold a gripe against her.

Pagwatch · 28/09/2011 11:25

Xenia makes excellent points. They are worth making and making repeatedly. Women need to secure their financial futures regardless of their circumstances.

On the one hand I am bewildered why Xenia choses to ignore the simple step of posting in a faintly pleasant way and choses instead to make being a successful woman seem such a sour and joyless thing. I am sure that most successful women chose not to represent themselves as quite so self satisfied. It seems peculiarly self defeating and is such a shame because her life should be aspirational but she manages to make being Xenia seem like a pretty miserable thing. I am sure it isn't but it sounds it.
Although on the bright side she does make me much much certain that I was right to leave work which is ironic.

But her view is just her view. Who she is matters not a jot. And searching her real life identity seems to be taking one persons views a bit to seriously. And scottishmummy is right. Argue with what she says, or how she says it. But picking on her real life seems off

scottishmummy · 28/09/2011 11:26

have no interest in who anyone on mn is in rl,nor the inclination to google or scratch about.nothing said on mn has significantly irked or never had thought wonder who whatsherface really is

laptoplover · 28/09/2011 11:27

I was curious to and was disappointed when I found out who she was.

Nobody to me, I thought she was famous or something.

I think she rather thinks she is something she is not.

wordfactory · 28/09/2011 11:41

Being curious is still a bit too creepy for me, but then I've been on the receiving end of some supposedly curious MNers, so perhaps I'm more likely to say that.

But it's not just curiosity when having tracked down the object of your annoyance, you then come back and post more information on here. Or you use that personal information to score points. That is not only creepy it is downright wrong and indefensible.

Yellowstone · 28/09/2011 11:41

scottishmummy I'm really into idle curiosity. It's interesting to me, maybe not to you. Each to their own.

Same sort of age, same sort of education and background, very different lives now, same sort of outcome for our big families.

Benign interest in other people is good, not bad. No-one here is handing out names and Xenia clearly doesn't hide from the press.

Yellowstone · 28/09/2011 11:42

I admired her very lovely house word, that's all.

wordfactory · 28/09/2011 11:44

And laptop there's a lot more to being successful than being famous surely. Please tell me there is.

Or would you have been more impressed if she were Katy Price?