to be totally fucked off with the antisahm comments on here?

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Wtaf are you only a good role model to your DC if you are in paid employment?
Why does someone only be valid in society if they earn?
Why should I work only to pay someone else do a job to look after my DC? wtaf is the logic in that?
ffs

There's more to life than having a high IQ. And it may provoke a response, but somehow I doubt being laughed at was the one intended.

I think Xenia is ace and does a sharp line in wit. I'm also sure she spends her days doing exactly what she wants !

I think Xenia is great for giving women "permission" to work. Not that they should need it. But too many women feel shit for keeping their careers going.

You could say she's a mega-cow for implying SAHM's are thick etc but TBH this has no effect on women who are not thick, who had good careers before they had children that they are happy to be having a break from or who planned from their early 20's to use child-rearing (god willing) as a sabbatical, who decided early retirement was for them or who decided they would stage a career change around this point.

Hell, what not enough people realise is that women can be independently wealthy regardless of their husbands and employment status. You can have an income without having a job or a business if you bought up the right property during your lucrative career 15 years ago and now rent them out. There are countless other examples.

Its always assumed there is some mug of a bloke supporting some leech of a woman but there are so many different scenarios to someone not working for a while, children need not even come into it but its not surprising they often do!

It's not a clever view to hold when you see so many threads in Relationships written by women who are belittled by their partners and made to feel like they make no contribution to their household.

I doubt she spends days doing what she wants to do ....................... if she did she would not be held in the same boat as GOD would she.

She spends her days running around after clients in order to get paid.

'She knows which lines to deliver to evoke a response'. I agree SM - but that's basically trolling isn't it? Same as people talking about day orphanages.

She evokes a response because she repeatedly puts forwards opinions as universal facts which people tend to find quite annoying. They may be her actual opinions or she might be a balding trucker wanking himself red raw over getting housewives in a lather - I've no idea.

Well, this is the first time I've seen Xenia on MN, and it's not taken me very long to form an opinion.

laptop Xenia enjpys what she does. She has always said so.That is what she wants to do. She is senior enough to have packed it in quite some time ago mehtinks, if that's what she preferred.

I know lots of women who work and are doing what they want to do. I'm one of them.

The fact that you find it difficult to believe that women might enjoy that shows that you have very fixed views about what women enjoy, I think.

I think the point is that by saying, I am a woman and I love my work is not the same as saying there is anyhting wrong with SAHPs.

I've seen her before but only ever on these threads.

She's a long standing member who is on all kinds of threads.

XENIA ENJOYS RUNNING AROUND AFTER OTHER PEOPLE IN ORDER TO GET PAID.

SHAME ON HER.

She has to work to keep her ex husband in the manner he became accustomed to she could not of been that rich as she had to re mortgage the house and he took all the savings.

It is all on line took 30 seconds to find it.

She may well enjoy her work. I'm sure loads of women do and some don't. Just as some women enjoy staying at home and some don't. She says that mums going out to work is the best for all children and their mums which is blatantly a load of arse.

I never see her on any other thread except these types.............as she doesnt cook or read or look after the kids.

I have no problem believing that women enjoy working. I used to work myself. What I do have a problem with is being belittled because I have different values.

If a man spouted that shite on here, he'd be called a chauvinistic pig and told to fuck right off.

Right well I've been here a good while under various names and I only ever remember her on these threads so I can only assume that these are the only threads she trolls has such strong opinions on.

laptop why are you being so personal?

Are you the twat that stated her name on another thread?

What do you get out of it?

The same as Xenia I suppose.......................

It amuses me.

I have never named her on here.

Do you want me to.?

Xenia has not made any personal remarks about any posters.
She states her views as is her right.

Persoanlly abusing her, trying to out her etc is pretty low. Or is that what we do now if we disagree with someone?

No personal remarks....other than stating as fact that all sahm's are doing the wrong thing by their kids. As others have posted she knows exactly the reaction that will get since she is always on these threads so I can only assume it's the reaction she craves.

That is not personal.

And trying to justify perosnal attacks containing personal information or trying to out a poster...because 'she did it first' is puerile imho.

Calling SAHM 'thick'' not personal.

You dish it out you get it back.

I don't suppose she cares/ as said I took 30 seconds to find her and I'm thick!!!

I think the point is that by saying, I am a woman and I love my work is not the same as saying there is anyhting wrong with SAHPs.

No, but this is ...

Someone was suggesting housewives were best at bringing up children. I was saying the ones who are housewives are on average the ones who failed at work and were not perhaps in the top earners so were probably less bright and may be not quite so good at child psychology and bringing up children. I stand by that (Xenia, a couple of pages back, in case you missed it)

Either she genuinely holds such offensive views or she is indeed trolling. While I personally don't take her at all seriously and frequently find her posts hilarious, I agree with Scarah - what must it be like to read that if you are in an abusive relationship with a partner who has stripped you of all your self-esteem?

That's not the point.

If we want women in all walks of life, including some in high profile postions to take part in the diverse community that is MN, then we have to respect one another's privacy.

I too have been outed here by some dip shit who thought they had to do whatever it took to win an argument. I had to name change. It's not on, it's indefensible. But I think you know that really.

All this she did it first, is playground idiocy.

Mumsnet will delete any of my posts they see fit.

Xenia never changes her name or if she does she changes it back, so she cannot be that worried.