STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AND STOP THE ATTACKS ON SN PARENTS

[4madboys]

ok NOT an aibu, but this is where it will be seen the most and it NEEDS awareness.

quite frankly, i along with others am appalled at the comments that are being made and left to stand, toward the SN community, they are downright offensive and quite simply appalling.

i am sure (or hope) that the majority on here do NOT agree with them but yet the SN community on mn are not being supported, whether this is because people do not know what to say, or they havent seen these posts i do not know?

BUT IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THINGS CHANGED, so this a thread where you can stand up and be counted and say that you do not agree with the disregard, blatant trolling and offensive behaviour towards our lovely mn who have or are dealing with sn in their family.

they need this place for support, not the vile behaviour that they are getting.

so please post here and show your support and help make a change for the better.

all it takes is a smile next to your name to show you agree :)

Oh POG

surely teh whole point is that we can say things without people bridling?

And I am so not MN royalty. I never get on those lists or any fo that crap.

I think youa re amazing, I just didn;t think it was helpful to tell soeone who I thougt was trying to understand to fuck off. I'll reserve those for people who don't want to understand. And in fairness, during 10 yeras of posting that ahs always been my approach.

:o

hey goblin please dont go! i think we all understood your sentiment, but disagreed with the 'fo' comment, this thread is staying positve :) which is good and i think we would just like it to continue in that vein, hence no namecalling etc :)

Agreed.

Don't think shiney said anything to warrant a fuck off tho........she made valid points.

I have been shocked at some of the comments on here recently. Not going to discuss specific threads but one dismissive phrase in particular really troubled me.

Professionallyoffendedgoblin

I am very sorry you feel like that.
I have been on here and posting alongside you for years.
I have never disagreed with you once as far as I can remember on the contrary I had regarded you as someone who I liked and had assumed had some regard for me.

I just don't like to see people who seem to me to be finding their way through this stuff lined up on the same side as the twats. There are people who want to support and should be able to voice concerns or views.

I wonder if the mn royalty dig (which frankly I regard as the same as professionally offended - just something nasty to say) means that you see me as sticking up for a mate. I am not - I don't know shiney other than the few posts I see on here. I just think your reaction was overly aggressive and as I banged on about people being prepared to argue with those on the same side as the argument when they feel they cross a line, I couldn't be a hypocrite about it.

I think you are shouting at the wrong people. But you must see it as you will. It makes me sad but there you go.

Erm I didnt say insanely reactionary

Was probably Pag

and Siney POG is one person, just one.

I'll happily be counted. I haven't seen the threads in question but will always be happy to offer what support I can

I think that the Shiney/POG exchange on this thread does show why some posters are wary of SN threads, and even of showing support.

Because there are so many attacks and snide remarks, it is easy for posters on the SN threads to take offence where none was meant. I have not posted occasionally as I would not want to sound patronising (and in POG's defence, that was how it came off, although I am sure that Shiney didn't mean it like that).

So posters are wary of posting support in case they say something wrong, and SN board posters take offence where none was meant, because of the amount of abuse they take elsewhere.

If I were constantly defending my life, my children, my decisions then I would perhaps be slightly more touchy about some comments that were actually just badly worded attempts at sympathising.

I stood up and got deleted

Whilst I fully support taking ignorant people to task, I do find many people who are living in the world of special needs very touchy sometimes

Before everyone shouts at me, I have SN myself, I have one learning disabled child and one physically and learning disabled child

I have read the threads pointed out and I can't get overly outraged by them. Call my child or any child a spaz/retard/mong etc and I will rip your throat out - talk about specialneedsy and I'm abit meh about it all

People in the non special needs world do not get and will never get the day to day fight we live with. They don't understand how little phrases will set our hackles rising - they don't live it, they will never get it - most of us wouldn't if we weren't living it. Using incorrect terminology - like asking if distressing regression is a diagnosis - that's just ignorance but not necessarily offensive - I don't know lots of terminology around SN not in my life and I must admit I had to read that one twice

Some posters do bring SN into threads, where it isn't about SN (the child safety one for example...I know I will get strung up for that one) Some people do carry a cross and bring SN into every thread.

My life is fully emersed in the SN world, but not everything about me is about SN iyswim.

I battle every day with NHS, Wheelchair services, OT, Physio, Education, LEA etc etc, we all do, but I don't expect people without inside knowledge to understand the first thing about those battles but I also can't berate them from having no knowledge and that they come across as ignorant, like I said Meh to most of it

Perhaps MMe

but then sharing love of our children with SN and frustrations at the system we find ourselves in doesn't mean we will be he same in other ways

noddyholder :(

So "personal attacks" are not allowed, what can we say instead?

"[insert offensive view] is usually held by idiots/cunts"
"[offensive opinion] is cunty"
"I've only met cunts who think [offensive view]"

What do you reckon? None of them are aimed at a specific person..

How about

"All people who think [offensive view] are cunts"

Seeing as offending whole groups doesn't count as a "personal attack"?

But MsC isn't taht a seldf damninga rgument?

if we do not take people to ana side and inform them, or when severe take them to tasl then we cannot expect people to understand; not tackling things becuase they don't undersatnd is just so- defeatist.

It is an ever decreasing circle then.

If the SN posters are fed up educating, and the non-SN posters are wary of getting involved, and the trolls and professional troublemakers get away with posting offensive comments..

Full moon tomorrow, folks. Just sayin'.