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to think MNHQ should not be deleting posts in this way? WARNING: Ranty

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doublestandard · 10/09/2011 15:39

So, having a post deleted is a MN rite of passage and all that, but I think MNHQ have got a bit trigger happy with the delete button of late but not in a good way. And yes this is a bit thread about a thread but I think it's a general problem and worth discussing.

As an example, I have recently had a post from AIBU deleted because I said the manner in which a poster had disregarded others opinions was "flaming arrogant" and that "You have come across on this thread as a self-important, judgey know-it-all". Apparently this constitutes a personal attack?? Since when have we not been allowed to say that a specific post on a thread suggests arrogance? Or that a poster is coming across in a certain way? It is not saying the poster is arrogant or a self-important, judgey know-it-all but that is how they are being perceived.

Now ordinarily I'd shrug this off but I'm seeing more and more posters crying "personal attack!" when disagreed with and then having posts that seem to me to be quite reasonable deleted. I am also baffled that MNHQ have decided that it is not a personal attack to leave up comments by another poster stating that I condone child abuse (I mean what the actual fuck?!) when I have said nothing of the kind and because my post above is deleted people can't make up their own minds. Either delete both or delete neither surely?

I think most people on MN employ an attack the posts, not the poster as a rule. Yes, it is a bit more blunt on AIBU than relationships or behaviour and development for example, and I think that's right, but I find the nannying attitude and selective decisions not to be in the spirit of MN.

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Disclaimers

I have namechanged because I don't want to draw any more attention to the thread where MNHQ sees fit to allow a post to stand that falsely states I support the abuse of children. I suspect a few people may recognise me and/or the thread so I'd prefer not to be outed thanks.

In the interests of fairness there was another part of my post that MNHQ felt could be interpreted as "giving the finger". It was actually nothing of the kind - it was a reference to being part of a particular organisation and then a flounce - but I can see how someone might have interpreted it as that even if I don't agree. Fair enough to decide to take it down, but why leave up a libellous post stating a poster condones child abuse when the orginal post is not there to be judged? Confused

I have raised this with MNHQ and the second paragraph draws on their email response.

OP posts:
SayCoolNowSayWhip · 10/09/2011 17:06

X-Post Olivia. Thanks!

I do feel special now :o

doublestandard · 10/09/2011 17:07

No I didn't report it!

OP posts:
hobnobsaremyfavourite · 10/09/2011 17:07

message deleted by me to save MNHQ the bother

Thumbwitch · 10/09/2011 17:07

So come on Olivia - spill - have you all at MNHQ become more trigger-happy recently?

AgentZigzag · 10/09/2011 17:07

Grin at you not being able to call yourself a cunt Grin

What happens if it's true though?

Psammead · 10/09/2011 17:08

Olivia, I have never been deleted either, but I would prefer to keep my cherry for a really spectacular outburst Grin

I may spend some time planning it.

BatsUpMeNightie · 10/09/2011 17:08
BatsUpMeNightie · 10/09/2011 17:09

coowhip? Oh for fuck's sake. Grin

OracleInaCoracle · 10/09/2011 17:09

I was deleted once.

For calling someone a fool (seriously)

I also had my cunt cherry popped yesterday

OracleInaCoracle · 10/09/2011 17:09

I was deleted once.

For calling someone a fool (seriously)

I also had my cunt cherry popped yesterday

HoneyPablo · 10/09/2011 17:10

I think they must all have a deletion quota that they have to met. To prove that they are actually moderating and not just posting and joining in the fun name-calling

SayCoolNowSayWhip · 10/09/2011 17:11

lissielou did they delete just one of your posts or both :o

OliviaMumsnet · 10/09/2011 17:11

Ooh i would quite like a deletion quota!

HoneyPablo · 10/09/2011 17:13

lissielou always posts twice. it's in case one of her posts gets deleted Grin

Thumbwitch · 10/09/2011 17:13

Olivia, it would need to be set lower than it currently is, I reckon!
PMSL at Coolwhip - it's not Lissie's fault, tis her stupid technology Grin

Jacksmania · 10/09/2011 17:14

Can I call myself a cunt and be deleted? Pretty please? :o

Oh, and then can I call someone who really deserves it a cunt, and have it let stand? Because that would be classic :o

Psammead · 10/09/2011 17:14

Tbh it's much worse elsewhere. OT posts, double posts (repeats or simply posting twice in a time period with no other posts between), anti-moderator/admin posts, any kind of slightly aggressive language, anything sexual etc are not tolerated in loads of places.

HecateQueenOfWitches · 10/09/2011 17:15

Ooh, me too, Olivia.

I think we should all get 5 a month. Can you imagine Grin

Yer a twat

moronicatatonic · 10/09/2011 17:15

Lots of posters on MN self-avowedly have conditions which mean they don't have empathy. Hence they genuinely don't know that their posts hurt other people's feelings.

HecateQueenOfWitches · 10/09/2011 17:16

erm, allow me to clarify, Olivia. YOU aren't a twat Blush

SayCoolNowSayWhip · 10/09/2011 17:16

Aye, but tis a slippery slope, Psammead. Where do you draw the line? I'd hate to log on and suddenly have the screen filled with tickers and moving smilies.....

Thumbwitch · 10/09/2011 17:16

JM, I will graciously let you call me a cunt if you wish, then you can be deleted. Since Olivia is already here, it shouldn't need reporting even Grin

OracleInaCoracle · 10/09/2011 17:17

Grin coolwhip and honeypablo, it was before the twatphone.

Actually, if someone were to report me for saying that they were cunts daft and/or wrong, would they have to report me twice?

WidowWadman · 10/09/2011 17:17

Oh, it appears I have been. Ah well. Think I have said worse things which hadn't. I wouldn't have started a thread about it, though.

Honeydragon · 10/09/2011 17:17

What if instead of deleting the post the thread got deleted. Then HQ could do their 321 poof count down they like.

eg messaged deleted due to complaint

once it gets to 3 poof.

It might make people think twice about reporting to be petty, and it might make people twice if it means losing the whole thread?

Sort of try to encourage us to self police again

Poster: I'm reporting you caaaaaaaaaah
Everyone else: Leave her, she's not worth it.....

Grin
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