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To report staffie to police for attacking my DD 14 wk old puppy?

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pippala · 21/08/2011 13:00

Last evening my daughter and her partner were walking their puppy past some houses on an extendable lead.
Staffie tears down his driveway which had no gate and picks puppy up by his back and shakes him.
The lead was extended so wrapped around dog and daughter and boyfriends legs.
Boyfriend bitten on wrist by puppy as he tried to pull him away from the dog. He managed to get him out of the dogs mouth and handed him to my daughter.
The staffie then jumped up and got puppy by the back legs and dragged him out of my daughters arms. Now in the middle of the road.
My daughter was screaming, she thought Puppy would die.
Young boy aged about 10 saunters down the drive, totally uninterested attitude and gets staffie off puppy. without a collar on!
Four men from across the road also tried to help before boy came down the drive.
This dog could so easily do that to a toddler walking past the house.
Will the police do anything to help?
This dog could have history. He had no collar on and loose in the garden. What if he kills a child one day when it could have been pervented?
They should pay the vets bills which will run into the £100's but we dont want to approach them personally. Would the police help? Could we take it to the small claims court?
What if the puppy doesn't pull through. My poor daughter she is devastated.

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mummymccar · 24/08/2011 14:44

Hope the puppy, your daughter and her partner are all ok, what an awful thing for them all to go through.
I think you really need to report this. I used to live on a street with a nasty dog like this that used to regularly go for other dogs and cats that came near it. One day I was walking in the park near my house and saw this dog & his owner with another dog & owner. The two owners were encouraging the dogs to fight. As soon as they saw me the two dogs (not on their leads) broke up their fight and came after me. Luckily their owners called them back and they listened. I reported it to police and RSPCA and never heard anything back. About a month later the dog attacked a blind man and his guide dog in the town centre & nearly killed the guide dog. The dog wasn't put down but it was made to wear a muzzle afterwards.
Please report this, if if it never attacks a human you don't want another animal hurt.
Best of luck
xxx

mummymccar · 24/08/2011 14:48

Landrover - I'm guessing you don't have animals? My cat was abandoned by her owners as a kitten and adopted us. It awful to think that anyone would support putting down a healthy animal because it is homeless.
A friend of mine is a foster carer for dogs in kennels and has never had a problem with any of the dogs assessed as safe in the last 15 years of fostering.

mummymccar · 24/08/2011 14:52

Didn't see other 7 pages - glad puppy is physically on the mend. Good to hear the police are taking the attack seriously.

idlingabout · 24/08/2011 15:14

OP - I hope your dds puppy recovers. Poor little thing must have been terrified. I also have a lot of sympathy for some of the points dbshas been trying to make. The one thing I think would make a huge difference towards improving the responsibilty of <strong>owners</strong> is to re-introduce the dog licence and to have it at a significant figure. There is far too much casual ownership of dogs and far too much ownership by people who should never be allowed to have dogs. People bemoan the behaviour of dogs, the problems with dog shit etc and this is <strong>all</strong> down to the owners. So many problems can be tracked to lack of exercise and stimulation of the dog because far too many people get thenice little puppy` and then fail to look after it properly because they are either too lazy or too busy.
Rant over - as you were.

LtEveDallas · 24/08/2011 15:50

Landrover - you obviously have no idea what it means to rescue a dog, what a rescue centre is or how they work. DBF does, and can post with authority on the subject, you cannot.

You say "The problem with rescued dogs is you have absolutely no idea what has gone on with their upbringing. You are letting people adopt dogs that could do anything". Any dog can do anything, any animal you invite into your home could do anything. My MILS cat was an evil bitch from Hell and we were all far more scared of that animal than any dog I've met!

You also say "so they spend the rest of their life in a kennel?". No, they dont, they could spend the rest of their life at a rescue centre, that doesn't mean kennel. They could be fostered by someone attached to the rescue centre, that doesn't mean a kennel.

Oh and OP, lots of dogs are agressive to other animals, not even necessarily other dogs, but it does not mean that they are aggressive towards humans. My wonderful, stupid, soppy Mutt detests squirrels and would tear one apart in seconds if she caught it. She loves humans (and ferrets, strangely).

(Oh and a Royal Mail postman can refuse to deliver to a house where a dog is barking if he 'fears for his safety' so it certainly does not mean that that dog has bitten a postman)

Lougle · 24/08/2011 16:31

Have read the whole thread through.

DBF having read threads you post on, over a long period, do you ever worry that you are a bit overinvested? I love dogs, have had them all my life, GSDs mainly, but rescued collie-cross, Westie, mongrel, etc., but really, when you view dogs as better than equal to humans, you've gone a bit too far, imo.

OP, I hope your puppy recovers soon.

southmum · 24/08/2011 17:00

Landrover, you are talking a load of fanny and clearly know sod all about pets, animals, or, well anything really so have a Biscuit

Lougle - with so many dogs being mistreated and thrown out for the most ridiculous of reasons eg. how many threads have we seen on here where a baby comes along and suddenly the OP finds all sort of turd reasons why the pet simply cant stay anymore is it any wonder that people like DBF are so invested? Animals need people like DBF to help them as they cant speak for themselves.

As it happens I also think that dogs are better than most humans, a dog has never hit me, called me names, threatened me, stolen off me, cheated on me or bullied me. They have shit on my carpet though....

mummymccar · 24/08/2011 17:22

Southmum My friend had an old boyfriend who once shit on the carpet when drunk so they do that too Wink

LtEveDallas · 24/08/2011 18:02

Ahh, now I've been wee'd on by an ex once (swamped the bed) and poo'd on by DD more times than I care to remember, but my dog has never done either...she has stolen off me though, and dammit I was looking forward to that hot dog!

Andrewofgg · 24/08/2011 18:12

idlingabout - The dog licence was and would be unenforceable.

southmum If either parent is unhappy, however unreasonably, about the dog and the DC the dog has to go. At once. End of story. DC comes first.

Kladdkaka · 24/08/2011 18:14

I don't think dog licences are the answer. In theory, yes, but in practise the only people who will fork out for them are the responsible owners who don't need them. The practicalities of enforcing a licencing system would bankrupt the country.

Kladdkaka · 24/08/2011 18:14

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southmum · 24/08/2011 18:34

Mummymccar Grin

Andrew - as I say, all sorts of turd reasons.......

Seabird72 · 24/08/2011 18:50

My dog was attacked on a walk 2 weeks ago and her wounds are still healing. It was a terrible shock and to be honest I was very embarrassed about it all and so didn't react how I feel I should have. I just wanted to be away from these people and their nasty vicious dogs (alsations btw which are dogs that I have previously admired). My dog had to go to the vet and I wish I had reported it but I didn't really get a good desciption of the people and I think they are local but no idea where they live. All dog attacks should be reported and if I see them again I will have a few things to say to them. I have warned other people because this man had asked me if the my dog was a female and I asked if his was a female and he said yes - so he knew that his female dog was aggressive to other females! Haven't seen them in the last 2 weeks - I do find myself feeling intimidated now when I see large dogs ahead - this dog was on lead btw but the man had let it go or the dog was so strong it pulled loose. By law all dogs are required to wear a collar so if nothing else the police should go round and talk to the family about that as well as the dog attack.

Seabird72 · 24/08/2011 18:58

my dogs are large btw - greyhounds but very gentle and I know lots of people with lovely alsations so I'm not knocking alsations - just that this particular attack was by an alsation. I'm not even suggesting this dog should be out down but certainly the owner needs to muzzle it so that it can't bite - I muzzled my dogs for a long time when I first got them because I was terrified they would get a cat and kill it but people started crossing the road to avoid me! However in this instance the alsation should be muzzled because it has attacked another dog and next time it could be a dog that it might kill and other dog owners shouldn't be put in that sort of danger. My greyhounds are all rescue and very laid back and gentle with everyone and every animal except one would kill rabbits and small furry creastures if he got the chance so I keep him on lead always - the other 2 will chase any small furry thing but never harm them although I only found that out by accident.

BeerTricksPotter · 24/08/2011 19:04

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Shoutymomma · 25/08/2011 10:56

When my previous dog was attacked by an english bull terrier, I put up a notice in the village giving a description of the dog, warning other people to take care and asking if anyone knew the dog. Its owner rang me up and gave me a right mouthful, saying people had approached her about the incident and 'how dare I' because I couldn't prove it was her dog (despite the fact that it is the only white ebt in the village). The front of this woman was quite something.

It had been a couple of days since the event and my response was extremely well rehearsed. I don't know as I have ever given such an effective tirade in my life, quoting the police and criminal evidence act and details of the conversation I had had with the dog warden, questioning her ability to own a dog and all the while maintaining my dignity by not calling her a stupid fucking bitch.

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