To report staffie to police for attacking my DD 14 wk old puppy?

[pippala]

Last evening my daughter and her partner were walking their puppy past some houses on an extendable lead.
Staffie tears down his driveway which had no gate and picks puppy up by his back and shakes him.
The lead was extended so wrapped around dog and daughter and boyfriends legs.
Boyfriend bitten on wrist by puppy as he tried to pull him away from the dog. He managed to get him out of the dogs mouth and handed him to my daughter.
The staffie then jumped up and got puppy by the back legs and dragged him out of my daughters arms. Now in the middle of the road.
My daughter was screaming, she thought Puppy would die.
Young boy aged about 10 saunters down the drive, totally uninterested attitude and gets staffie off puppy. without a collar on!
Four men from across the road also tried to help before boy came down the drive.
This dog could so easily do that to a toddler walking past the house.
Will the police do anything to help?
This dog could have history. He had no collar on and loose in the garden. What if he kills a child one day when it could have been pervented?
They should pay the vets bills which will run into the £100's but we dont want to approach them personally. Would the police help? Could we take it to the small claims court?
What if the puppy doesn't pull through. My poor daughter she is devastated.

For a thread supposedly about aggressive dogs, I'm certainly seeing a lot of human aggression and desire to kill on here. Some of you absolutely disgust me, you really do. At least this dog's behaviour can be blamed on bad owners. What excuse do you have?

I don't need an excuse for wanting to protect humans, and especially children, from aggressive dogs, no matter how they came to be aggressive - and I am aware that in many cases it will be the fault of the owners.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2028824/Manchester-mother-Karen-Greaves-terror-pet-killer-dog-attacks-daughters-buggy.html

Where in that article does it say the dog attacked a person though?

Don't get me wrong - it's a horrible, horrible thing to happen and must have been absolutely terrifying. Poor little dog and poor people :(

But it says it knocked the buggy over. That could easily have happened in the general pandemonium and I'm sorry, but if a Mastiff wants to attack your child, it is going to attack it regardless of whether you lay across it and stick your hands in its mouth. If that dog had intended to hurt one of the children it would have done. No question.

It also didn't attack the mother. She put her hands in its mouth.

Let me repeat, I am not trying to minimise what happened AT ALL. I am NOT sticking up for the dog. I just don't think the article necessarily supports the idea that a dog aggressive dog is any more risk to humans INASMUCH AS IT IS MORE LIKELY TO ATTACK A HUMAN.

Of course if by "risk to humans" you include instances when the human gets caught in the crossfire, that's a different thing.

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I wish someone had told her that, it wouldn't have saved her poor little dog, but it might have prevented her suffering such awful injuries herself. Don't misunderstand me, what she did was extraordinarily brave, and admirable for that reason, but misguided due to exactly the sort of thinking (oh it'll be the children next!) we're trying to argue against on this thread.

And to be fair, if you suddenly shoved your hands in my mouth, I'd quite possibly bite you!

Galaxy I'm fed up of seeing there is no correlation between a dog that would hurt a puppy then going on to hurt a child.

The point is that if an owner has an out of control dog, not kept securely in a garden and not trained it could easily become a dangerous dog to other dogs or to humans. The OP has been flamed for saying that but it's true.

Calamity If I went to the park, found a random buggy, threw it over with the baby inside it, I would be charged with assaulting the child. You say that the dog didn't attack a human well it did and the mother did what she had to do to protect her child.

It seems to me that some will go to any lengths to justify out of control dog's behaviours. The person here who was in the wrong 100% wrong was the dogs owner who did not have control of it, couldn't have trained it and had it off the leash. The dog should be PTS no question.

Andrewofgg, you said "A dog which has attacked a human - or in attacking a dog has harmed a human - adult or child - should be humanely destroyed"

It was the puppy that bit the human, not the SBT. Do you mean that you think the puppy should be destroyed?

You also said "It's not rocket science" ...

"The person here who was in the wrong 100% wrong was the dogs owner "

Completely agree with this, no question about it at all. Can't imagine anyone would disagree.

I believe the dog is already dead, so you can relax about that

A dangerous dog is any dog who has been trained or simply encouraged to be dangerous.

LtEveDallas

Yes.

Quick update.
Puppy came home on Sunday on antibiotics and painkillers.
He has five puncture wounds, one on the left of his mid spine, one on his groin, three stitched on his left leg.He hasn't ventured out of his bed since and cries if he is touched. He nibbles a little food but worryingly he isn't drinking.
My daughter who is 27yrs old and a junior doctor (responsible!) did have him on an extendable lead about 2.5ft in front of her and her boyfriend. The dog came running out of a house that they had passed. They were three doors away from his house when he attacked. The puppy ran between their legs and rolled on his back in submission when the dog approched. She didn't pick the pup up because she had been advised not to at puppy classes as it would instil a fear of other dogs into the puppy.
The dog then tossed him over and picked him up by his back and shook him.
She nor the puppy deserved this to happen to them. i don't believe the attack would not have happened if he was on a normal lead. I find it quite upsetting that this extendable lead has been the subject on so many posts on here. If it had been extended 20ft it still wouldn't excuse the attack.
My daughters partner has spoken to the police and the dog warden. The dog was known to both! Although they made no judgement or gave him any details of how the dog was known to them. They are expecting a visit this pm to make a statement. They are also going to speak to the witnesses and the vet. It has also been suggested by the dog warden that he informs the housing association.

Dog known to police and dog very responsible owners. It also struck me that after such a vicious attack an adult did not come out but a child did.

I hope the puppy recovers very soon and the authorities make sure that thsi dog will not only never be able to attack again but be stopped from owning any other animal again.

Sorry badly worded but the owners are stopped from ever owning a pet again.

Glad to hear the puppy is home.

Pippala, so glad to hear puppy is on the mend and allowed home. Poor little mite :(

Glad to hear poor little pup is on the mend.

My friend's gorgeous cat was recently killed by her neighbour's staffie

Holy crap, Ephiny, are you suggesting she should have thought "oh, just because this lovely doggy is ripping my spaniel to pieces doesn't mean it will attack my children. I'll just wait and see what happens. It's probably just misunderstood, poor thing "

My daughter has given a statement to the police this morning. It appears that the staffie is known by the police and dog warden due to being on a red card with Royal Mail. The police have handed the case to the CPS and expect the case in court within the next few days.
We are surprised how serious they are taking the attack.

Presumably this dog has bitten a postman? The police wouldn't go into details except to say the housing authority have also had dealings regarding the dog. The dogs name is ASBO!! . They have said it is very likely the dog will be pts.

DogsBestFriend, You seem to be an authority on dogs but I think you might just be wrong!

OH FFS! HOW MANY MORE TIMES DO I HAVE TO TYPE THIS? OR DO OTHERS HAVE TO SAY IT, AS MANY HAVE ABOVE.

THERE IS NO PROVEN SCIENTIFIC CORRELATION BETWEEN DOG-DOG AGGRESSION AND DOG-HUMAN AGGRESSION. THE TABLOIDS MIGHT CONVINCE YOU OTHERWISE, YOU MAY WANT TO BELIEVE IT, THE OP CLEARLY DOES BUT THERE IS NO PROVEN CORRELATION BETWEEN THE TWO. NONE. ZILCH. ZERO. SWEET FUCK ALL.

YOU MAY AS WELL SAY THAT BECAUSE A DOG IS DOG-AGGRESSIVE HE IS THEREFORE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ATTACKING BOWLS OF FRUIT AND EATING PANAMA HATS. YOU CAN MAKE UP WHAT YOU BLOODY WELL LIKE, BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ IN THE PAPERS IF IT AMUSES YOU BUT PLEASE STOP PROPAGATING BULLSHIT AS IT COSTS FAR MORE IN TERMS OF DOG WELFARE THAN YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE.

Yes, bold capitals are rude. Yes, I am shouting.

I'm shouting because you're continuing to advocate unproven, ridicuplous codswallop.

I have to say that i think Dogsbestfriend is entirely wrong! Spending your life rescuing "poor dogs" is a shameful waste of time.
The problem with rescued dogs is you have absolutely no idea what has gone on with their upbringing. You are letting people adopt dogs that could do anything, i dont care that they have been "assessed as being safe" by some dog expert, nobody knows the true story. As far as "we never put a healthy dog down" what the f* ? so they spend the rest of their life in a kennel? thats really looking after them!!!
Any dog that is not traceable, microchipped etc, and not claimed after say 5 to 6 weeks should be put to sleep! End of argument!