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to thoroughly detest potty training?

130 replies

DMCWelshCakes · 22/07/2011 17:59

DiddyDragon is 2.10 and has been dry at nursery (pretty much) for a few months now. Sadly for us, she's refusing to cooperate at home. Today was day one of home toilet bootcamp & I'm completely fucked off with the whole thing already. She's obviously ready as does it no problem at nursery, so why the hell won't she replicate this success when she leaves there?

Accidents - 2, including one 30 seconds after promising faithfully she didn't need to go.

Successful use of toilet - zero.

This would seem to suggest she's deliberately holding it so as not to have to go.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

OP posts:
DMCWelshCakes · 25/07/2011 17:15

Honestly, DiddyDragon said she wanted to do toilet training because "she's a big girl now". I'd quite happily wait another 6 months at least, or whenever this magical age is that they spontaneously just sort it out themselves. It really wasn't my idea. I do want to be consistent though.

I've got a big stash of chocolate buttons in & a reward chart, all ready to reward her for using the toilet (doesn't like the potty - apparently they're for boys Hmm) and so far she's had not a single one in 4 days. It's taking all my willpower not to eat them myself.

Whoever it was that suggested the potty training support thread - I agree! We'll have to think of a witty name for it though. Should have plenty of time for inspiration to strike as I'm sat on the cold bathroom floor waiting for DD.

On a completely seperate note, this thread made discussions of the day. First time ever I've had a thread officially noticed. Grin Should have known it'd be about poo...

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survivor12 · 25/07/2011 17:47

OP my DS, who is 3.4 monts old, was exactly the oppoiste, he dry at home but would only use nappies for nursery. This went for 8 months, the more I pleaded the more he refused until it eventually it became a battle of wills between us...i'll probably get crucified for saying this but in the end I resorted to bribery, promising to buy his long-sought after 'digger truck' if he tried to ask his nursey teacher to use the toilet. This immediately did the trick for me as the next morning he asked to use the toliet at nursey... I'm not advocating you resort to bribery but this was the only thing that worked for me Grin

PassTheTwiglets · 25/07/2011 17:59

Potty training was the only thing about having children that I have found easy. I don't say that to be smug - trust me, every single other aspect of motherhood has been a real struggle for me! But with both kids I waited until they were well past 3 and both of them did it within a couple of days, because they were ready. DD was even dry at night within a fortnight. Leave it until as late as humanly possible is my advice - I would never contemplate potty-training before the age of 3 (though I know some kids want to do it earlier - not sure what I'd do in those cases). I also don't think I agree with sitting them on the toilet at regular intervals as they won't learn to recognise their cues. I picked a warm weekend and let them run around with nothing on and by the time they'd had a couple of accidents they'd learned the feeling and that was that. But then I have wooden floors - I'm sure I wouldn't be saying the same if I had carpet :)

AuntiePickleBottom · 25/07/2011 18:09

I am dreading potty training, my son was almost 4 by the time he was potty trained and still at 5.5 years of age still isn't toilet trained at night. My daughter was 2 in June and I am not in no hurry to potty train

pranma · 25/07/2011 18:24

dgs2 did it himself aged 2.4/5.It was finished in 10 days total[day and night] no wet beds or pants since the first week.His big brother though is 4.9-trained in daytime by 2.7 but still wets bed about twice a week-they are all different .Both my dgs asked before dd was ready to try them-she intended to wait till 3.

jigglebum · 25/07/2011 19:40

We are currently in toilet training mode too and OP - you have my sympathy! DS is just over 3 and 3 is not a magic age where they can just "get it" - it is different for every child. DS would have happily stayed in nappies and tbh I could happily have kept him in them, but I thought I would give it a go and give up if no success.

As soon as I introduced pants one morning - that was it - he was keen as anything. Wees were mastered within 2 days really. I did not do the staying at home thing because I would go mad - but I totally sympathise with those who do - trying to find toilets out and about can be a pain and on day one DS did the world's biggest wee in a toy shop! I have been very relaxed about it all - but that is not necessarily the key either! every child is different.

We are having massive issues with poos. He used to be a once a day in a nappy boy and could happily sit in that and hating being changed but now he is holding on for ever (3/4 days generally) and getting in a lot of pain and does not want to go on the toilet or potty. He jumps around moaning and groaning for ages before he goes. He had 2 accidents in his pants on day one and two and to be honest I would rather he did this than refuse to go full stop! I have no idea why as we have tried to be very relaxed about it all but it is becoming a real issue for him. We have allowed him to ask for a pull up when he needs a poo - he does it in there and then wants changing asap - not ideal but better than seeing him in huge pain. We will get there, but like many others on this thread - it is a trying time! Those with new borns - I am in awe - I am 5 months pregnant and want it cracked before the new one arrives!!

Brynn · 25/07/2011 20:26

I'm going to be in the potty training plus newborn club soon. DS is 2.10 and DD was 'due' last Sat, but is taking her time, like her brother did.

I'm hating potty training so far: it's driving me mad. DS has me completely confused and I can honestly say I've no idea if he is ready or not. One day it's like he gets it, and spontaneously uses the toilet/potty without prompting. The next day it's back to shouting "NO" at the first mention of wee, then minutes later wetting himself. Is he forgetting? Is he just being stubborn?? Tomorrow I think I'll just flip a coin. Heads I continue, tails I stick him back in pull ups.

gabid · 25/07/2011 20:30

DD , 2.8 started to take herself to the toilet every morning and sometimes asks during the day too - and it seems to come! We started putting training pants on her now, so that she can manage the toilet herself (she doesn't want us in there). When she is out or very busy she forgets, but we don't really want her in knickers before we are back from holiday anyway.

With a bit encouragement they will do it themselves - I don't really want her wet every day or take her to the toilet every x minutes.

gabid · 25/07/2011 20:37

DS was dry at 3.1, day and night it worked within a week. A lot of children take a lot longer to be dry at night though, some are 8 or 9 before they are dry at night!

Emilyjane82 · 25/07/2011 20:40

Thank you for this post! Just joined this site this evening and this is exactly the kind of help I have been looking for!
Started potty training dd (2.7) properly last week and have been a bit uptight about it to say the least :-/ Between Gina Ford and a couple of other books I've read about it I really don't know whats best to do. At home with a bare bum she has all but worked it out and trots over to the potty when she needs to go but as soon as she has pants on or we're out she just wets herself. She has yet to acctually tell me she needs to go but I know she knows when she does need to (if that makes sense!) Should I keep going or leave it for a while?
Many thanks in advance
Em x

ouryve · 25/07/2011 21:07

Working hard on getting my 7 year old (with ASD) clean and dry at the moment. It's going to cost us a fortune in Lego, specially since he has diarrhoea, at the moment, but I'm really hoping this is finally it. He's stayed dry all day today (worth 50p in the Lego fund), gone to the toilet when reminded, without whinging at all today (20p!) and pooed in the loo 3 times (50p a go!). The pooing is the sticking point, so to speak, and has been the source of much angst to him for years.

And of course, if we manage to get him clean and dry at home, we then have to get him to transfer his new good habits to school.

Millie1 · 25/07/2011 21:17

Aaah potty training! I'm cracking up. DTs are 3.2 so I figured we should bite the bullet and, meanly Grin told them they've got to wear pants to move into the next room at playgroup (so not true). Cue lots of excitement and enthusiasm. DT1 went through 4 changes of clothes in one morning. DT2 spent the day refusing to get off the potty for more than 5 minutes at a time, then insisting she needed to wee but not producing more than a drop. As soon as I put a nappy on for her nap, she filled it. Day 2 she was really distressed so I stopped with both of them. That was last week.

This week I decided to try just with DT1. Got pants on her this morning before she wee'ed and for 2 hours, I followed her around, sat beside her, read books, talked. Did she produce? Nope! It got to the stage she was doing the 'I need a wee' dance and almost crying but she couldn't or wouldn't let it go on the potty. Tried her sitting on the potty nappy on but she didn't go til I let her run off to play with a nappy on.

Reading this thread, I'm thinking I should just park it for a couple of months. Any advice? Our boys were a breeze to train by comparison!

rhetorician · 25/07/2011 21:27

you have all cheered me up - have abandoned attempt to potty train DD1 2.6 today - lots of wees all over the floor (she is quite spatially aware, so stands in various spots saying 'did I do a wee there yesterday?' 'um, yes you did, dd') plus solemn promises 'I not wee on your 'puter mummy'. But no actual wee in the potty and some distress about poos - she has a history of with-holding anyway. She's not ready. Drat - it's summer and ideal, DD2 due before Christmas. Bloody dreadful business (not helped by older generation all declaring that everyone was potty trained at 2)

ByTheSeatOfMySpanx · 25/07/2011 21:35

This is a great thread - not potty training yet (although it has been suggested by a well-meaning individual that I should start on my 18mo DS - WTF?!), but always on the look out for good advice! Sympathies to OP and all others struggling - here was me thinking weaning was hideous enough, I clearly have much to look forward to Hmm Smile

zelda1982 · 25/07/2011 21:39

My dd2 is 3y4m and i've also gone cold turkey with her (daytime) and she is ok in the house but if we go out she will hold it in til im sure its going to give her a tummy ache. The last few times we've been out she has actually went on a public toilet (BIG achievement for her as she was scared-who isn't lol) but she will still pee herself a bit before we get to the toilet. She starts nursery in sept so really hoping she gets it before then.

Also its doesnt help that i have a terrible memory and having 3 kids to get ready and out the door, i always forget her spare clothes or portable potty etc.

rhetorician · 25/07/2011 21:39

now weaning was pretty ok - I think she was as relieved as we were...

zelda1982 · 25/07/2011 21:40

Dd1 was dry daytime at 2.5 and night at 3.5 so naively thought dd2 would be a breeze. Sad

emmanumber3 · 25/07/2011 21:40

I admit that I let both of my DS' lead the way with their potty training. In so much as I did it when they started taking their own nappies off, telling me they were having a wee/poo etc. Surprisingly, they weren't 14 either Grin. DS1 was 3 in the day but wore night-time pull-ups for quite a bit longer & DS2 was 2, both day & night.

Someone (possibly a HV) told me that there was no point pushing it until the child was ready & that would vary from child to child. Probably the most useful advice a HV ever gave me Hmm.

rhetorician · 25/07/2011 21:46

nursery lady gave me great advice: 'it's not about being cute [meaning smart, clever], it's about control, and if she doesn't have control, it won't work'. She doesn't, so currently no point. She'll tell us when she's ready.

emmanumber3 · 25/07/2011 21:50

Emily - personally, I would revert to using pull-up pants when you go out & about as you are still getting so many accidents. When the pull-up pants start remaining dry then you can try proper pants again, probably with more success. That's what I would do anyway - there can be a lot of pressure on parents (usually mums) to get their little ones potty trained but, really, it will happen naturally when the child is ready (and yes, it will be before they start Reception class unless they have a medical reason to prevent it) Grin.

DMCWelshCakes · 25/07/2011 21:52

I think part of the pressure we feel to potty train does come from earlier generations who are convinced that all children should be completely trained by 18 months.

Mind you, if I had a child in terry nappies held together with safety pins & only a twin tub washing machine with no tumble dryer I think I'd be keen to get them dry as soon as possible too.

DiddyDragon back to nursery tomorrow, so I have a day off from the horror.

Still no successful trips to the toilet today. All this holding it in must be bad for her. :(

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saladsandwich · 25/07/2011 21:52

ds showed real interest at 2, would tap on the nappy before he was weeing and pooing was 100% dry in the house with no nappy on then he totally regressed back to weeing all over, so i popped him back in nappies till his vocabulary was better and started just popping him on the potty and clapping like a loon if he did anything on it he would say wee and dart to the potty then i could whip his pants down. he is now 2 and half and he is getting there, 1 accident all week and that was him being stubborn because he was at a relatives playing with a toy. i have hated it though and i just feel like ds is going to start peeing allover the house again lol

best advise is though leave the bed time nappy on till they do their first morning wee, it smells the strongest and i cannot get it out of my carpets lol

for some reason though, health visitors and peadiatricians expect them done before 3 for some reason xx

happywheezer · 25/07/2011 22:42

I've had one poo and pee in the pants, then this evening one wee and one poo in the potty by DS aged 3. It's so soul destroying though.
Anyone know any good air freshners?!

MissBetsyTrotwood · 25/07/2011 22:43

We lost a poo when DS2 was potty training. DS1 and I knew it was somewhere in the front room but couldn't find it for ages.

And suddenly, there it was, just peeping out from under the Playmobil dinosaur volcano. Phew.

HSMM · 26/07/2011 08:41

Love the 'lost poo' story Grin.

DD was around 3 when she decided she was ready. My biggest problem was getting her off the potty and onto the toilet (cue sticker chart and a wheel along suitcase she really wanted). She came out of nappies at night time when she told me she really didn't need them any more Grin.

I am a Childminder and have had children successfully train from 1.5, up to 4. One of my friends was going mad when it looked like her DS would be starting school in nappies.

Just like sitting, standing, walking, etc, they all do it in their own time and in their own way and we can only assist them in the process. Rushing them is the absolute worst thing we can do (despite the fact that my Mum thought my DD should have been dry at 9 months).