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I just don't want their dog here

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WinkyWinkola · 17/07/2011 11:18

Pil are coming to visit this weekend. They stay in a hotel as our house is too small to accommodate them.

Mil has this ancient dog that is blind and well, imo, ready to be put down. She wants to bring it with them. It will have to stay with us whilst they are in the hotel.

I don't want the dog here, especially not a disabled one that will probably poo and wee every where. We don't have a garden as it's currently a building site.

If I wanted a dog, I'd get one. I don't so I won't. I've got 3 dcs and that's really enough for me. Plus all the cooking and hospitality for pil this weekend - which of course I don't mind but I think bringing the dog is an imposition.

Aibu?

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sparkle12mar08 · 17/07/2011 19:56

I don't know whether it was you Dogsbestfriend, it wasn't under your current username anyway. Whoever it was, I remember reading it and thinking I must have made a mistake, I must have, because no-one would possibly think that way. I even posted a cheerful reply along the lines of "surely there's a missing word there" or something like that. But the poster came back and specifically clarified. I'm rarely speechless as anyone who knows me would happily tell you, but that was... sobering.

DooinMeCleanin · 17/07/2011 19:56

Money, LineRunner. It is cheaper for councils to pay for dogs to be killed than it is to pay for their care untill they are re-homed or found space in a good rescue.

LineRunner · 17/07/2011 19:58

Dooin, my council doesn't euthanise healthy dogs.

Is this very rare?

Bunbaker · 17/07/2011 20:03

"And for those of advocating putting down dogs who are old or blind or disabled in some way, can I just say hahahahahaha! It's funny how there is such a distinct line between "oh I'm so compassionate, I care about people" and "put that animal down it's become a nuisance". "

I used to have two very beloved cats. They developed advanced kidney disease in their old age, and after being advised by the vet we had them both put down. I was bereft, but to have kept them alive when they were both so distressed would have been cruel. I didn't have them put down because they were a nuisance, but because they were very ill. I would do the same with a dog or any other animal.

DogsBestFriend · 17/07/2011 20:15

LineRunner, Battersea is a pound, where the councils take their strays. A rescue is a completely different establishment.

Battersea do rehome and are pretty good in their procedure from the POV of an adopter but they kill healthy dogs because the law says that councils need only keep strays for 7 days. After that councils may rehome, send to rescue or kill those strays. The law says that a dog handed in by his owner may be killed immediately.

So of course councils only pay their operators, the pounds, for 7 days care of the dog. Many pounds are profit making organisations and not run by the council - boarding kennels often have their council's pound contract.

Hence pounds kill healthy dogs after 7 days because they can not or will not keep them at their own expense. Some pounds will cooperate with rescue more than others, some are bastards.

Anyone know Fleet Boarding Kennels in Yorkshire? They automatically kill Staffs, Rotties, GSDs, Greyhounds and any other large breed or type they consider hard to home, on day 7 without even trying to find rescue places for them.

Any pound which says that they don't PTS is lying.

They do... they don't rehome those which they deem aggressive (even if only through fear of being in a kennel), they don't keep alive the vets bills on legs for more than 7 days as they would have to pay for a lot more than food and water if they did.... they make an economic, not moral decision.

They leave the morals to us in no-kill rescue.

(Polite word of warning - be careful not to confuse a pound and a rescue. Sod that the title is Battersea or Manchester "Dogs Home" (bitter irony there), that's just a title. Ask them outright if they have the contract for the councils strays. If they do they can cry rescue all they bloody well like, but they're a pound).

DooinMeCleanin · 17/07/2011 20:16

Yes. It is very rare. Our pound try not to euthansie healthy dogs, but they have to sometimes. They have a contract with the council to house any and all strays for a period of no less than 7 days. The council only pay for 7 days care. After that is upto the pound what happens to the dogs. If they become full they have to euthanise the long stay or hard to home dogs because they can't turn away strays.

I'd not be too sure that your council doesn't have a similar set up tbh. Our pound told me as a general member of the public that they never kill healthy dogs, I know via DBF who has had personal experience with our pound that this is just not true.

Kladdkaka · 17/07/2011 20:22

Saving my dog or saving my child from the icey waters? That depends, if she had been gobbing off as much as she has been this weekend, I might have trouble enough just getting my foot off her head.

lachesis · 17/07/2011 20:31

Hope your DH gets your MIL to do the right thing, Winky. Then at least that's all your problems sorted Wink

LineRunner · 17/07/2011 20:53

DBF No not a linerunner just a big fan of Sian Massey!

DogsBestFriend · 17/07/2011 20:54

Ah ha! :)

WinkyWinkola · 17/07/2011 22:59

But I still think individuals should be able and free to say, "I don't want your pet in my home. You are most welcome but that's it."

I can't believe how pet owners think they bring their pets to other people's homes regardless of other people's feelings. It's like everyone else should kowtow to pet owners priorities or else be labelled heartless. You're not actually allowed to have preferences in your own home. Amazing.

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WhatsWrongWithYou · 17/07/2011 23:18

Fucking hell. A dog isn't your family, it's your pet.
I'd always, always try and save someone else's child over my lovely pet dog
She's sweet and loyal and gorgeous but her life isn't worth the life of another human being. That's a fact.
I can't bear to imagine a world where people exist who wouldn't do the same.
Fucking weirdos.

fit2drop · 17/07/2011 23:30

I love my dogs
I adore my dogs
I owe my life to one of my dogs
I would die for my dogs
I would NOT save my dog before saving another human being whether it was my child or an adult stranger.

anything else is just wrong , on so many levels.

sits with WhatsWrongWithYou and ponders the weirdos

WinkyWinkola · 17/07/2011 23:33

You would die for your dog?

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fit2drop · 18/07/2011 00:23

yes... well risk it anyway. If the dog was in danger, for instance , I could not leave them in a burning house or if they got into trouble in water (insert any extreme situation) I could not just leave my dogs, I love them dearly, and would instinctively want to try and save them however it would be a no contest between rescuing them and anyone else first..always the humans first.

Not sure why you questioned that really , was just making the point that as much as my dogs mean the world to me and I would do anything for them I could not put another human beings life in jeopardy by second placing them to my dogs.
However I would personally kill any fucker that hurt my dogs Grin

reelingintheyears · 18/07/2011 00:35

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emptyshell · 18/07/2011 07:52

My dog's part of my family - yep I'd put my neck on the line to save him (and the cat although she's slightly less likely to end up in a pickle since she doesn't go out). Why wouldn't I? You don't give up on your family - it's just not a consideration.

I guess I just don't treat animals like a disposable commodity.

everlong · 18/07/2011 07:59

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diddl · 18/07/2011 08:00

"But I still think individuals should be able and free to say, "I don't want your pet in my home. You are most welcome but that's it.""

So do I.

And I also think they should be able to say-it can come-as long as you´re here to look after it!

exoticfruits · 18/07/2011 08:02

Why can't they justfind a dog friendly hotel?

Claw3 · 18/07/2011 08:02

My dog is part of the family, but he is a pet. He doesnt have human emotions, he isnt a full member of society and doesnt have the same rights as a human.

My dog is well cared for, he is loved, but there are boundaries. I fed him, i look after him when he is ill, i walk him, i give him attention, i take care of his toileting needs, but he is not a child, he is a dog.

everlong · 18/07/2011 08:23

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4madboys · 18/07/2011 08:28

havent read the whole thread but have done a similar one myself! Mine is a bit diff as i am allergic to dogs, but STILL our relatives want to bring their dog to stay in my house!

i dont think you are being unreasonable at all, your house your rules!

diddl · 18/07/2011 08:46

I think you can be nice without having to do what other want all of the time!

The usual carer won´t have the dog, it´s too ill to go to kennels, but MIL thinks it´s OK to leave at OPs whilst she´s elsewhere.

Who would traet an old/ill dog like that?

aftereight · 18/07/2011 08:51

YADNBU! Her dog, her responsibility. She should have booked into a dog friendly hotel if she wants to bring her dog.
And if she's travelling far enough from home to need to stay in a hotel, why is she putting the poor dog through a long, uncomfortable journey?
Any chance you could travel to her instead to avoid her imposition? I'd refuse to look after the dog btw.

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