How miserable are you that the Tories are in power?

[sundayrose10]

I feel tense and twitchy. I used to enjoy reading the politic section/ other political forums, but I fear if I keep on going there and reading more and more about Tory plans, I will give myself a heart attack.

I loath them but worst I fear them. I am anxious for this country and the ordinary man and woman.

Dave makes me feel insane with hatred.

I have a colleague who is in love with the Tories. I don't share biscuits with him any more.

Dave makes me itch. All over.

I haven't read all the posts because the pro Tory ones are making me mad, espeially those naieve MNs who believe that we are in this mess because of the mess that Labour left behind. That's the line all the tories and lib dems are peddling and it is absolute bullshit. Have any of your people who are swallowing the lie whole, that there is a worldwide global crisis going on.........I just wish Milliband would argue with them on this. The economy has not grown at all since this coalition came into being - worryin eh?

As for the way they are slashing away at public services, how an any of you be happy at that. They are dismantling the NHS to be sold of to the highest bidder, schools are being privatised by making them academies, prisons are privatised and this coalition will not be satisfied until all public services are privatised. Thousand of people are losing jobs every week, making them potentially homeless. There is ruthless cutting of benefits for people who are chronically ill or disabled - Job centres have targets to meet each week to get at least 70% of people of what was incapacity benefit, and on to Jobseekers. The ony trouble is there are very very few jobs around for workers (be they skilled or unskilled)

The cabinet members are all very wealthy, some of them millionaires, so they don't have to worry about their standard of living. Public servants are having to bre punished because of the greed of the bankers. It is rot to say that PS pensions can't be afforded - of course they can - it's just they know they can interven with public services, whereas they can't with private services.

The BMI have told them their proposals for the NHS will not work (and Cameron made it clear that they would not be touching the NHS - what a downright lie.) It's all wrapped up, but what it really means is privatising the NHS - after their so called "listening period" they are going ahead exactly as they were before. Selling off health services to any willing provider. I hope some of you MNs who are happy with this Govt will see for themselves in the years to come how bad things will be. I don't only feel angry I feel scared - shops that have been household names for years are closing, unemployment rising, ill people being so worried about benefits, there have been some suicides.

I've always voted Labour - I can't say I am that impressed with Ed M. He needs more "fire in his belly" - he's too polite and measured. I wasn't a great fan of Blair after the Iraq war and Brown who is a very clever man was a disaster as a PM.

However this coalition is going to wreak far more havoc in this country that Thatcher ever knew how to. God help us all.

Very.

And I can't believe the irony of DC wheeling out 'we're all in this together' today - we're all in the employing-Andy-Coulson-being-friends-with-Rebekah-Brookes thing together, are we? Really?

I also agree with MrsBethel's shit analogy.

OH my god I've just looked back over some of the posts and some fuckwits say things like "I quite like Sam Cam........FFS and "why don't you read a nice book instead of banging on about politics" - i'm losing the will to live!

Actually Nina, I don't blame Labour for the financial crisis per se. They do have to take some of the responsibility for not putting the regulations in place but that's with the benefit of hindsight.

What I do blame Labour for is the structural deficit. That's the overspend excluding the bailouts. They inherited a balanced budget and it was out of control by the time they left. The facts couldn't be any clearer. You can't blame the Tories for that one.

I love Ed Milliband and I suspect every Tory voter does too! He's the Tories best asset in the next election. I mean who can fault his stance on

Now I'm not a big fan of Cameron but let's be honest, I'd rather have him running the country than red ed.

And you are yet another deluded voter with a shaky grasp of the facts if you think the banking crisis was directly responsible for the deficit. That was getting out of control without the crisis.

Public services must be now cut because:

a) We borrowed so much money and now we must pay it back. That's what happens when we borrow money....we must pay back with interest which means less money overall.

b) We expanded public services massively with borrowed money, in an unsustainable manner so arguably some contraction is needed to bring things back to the level that's affordable.

c) Public sector pensions have been a poison chalice for decades which no government has been stupid enough to touch because it would have been political suicide....until now. Now in the age of austerity we have a chance to get them under control so I'm glad we're tackling it. I've no doubt Labour would do the same thing and it's the only chance we get to ensure our kids are not burdened by the ridiculously unaffordable pensions we've given the public sector.

Oh yes, Nana, and us scroungers that have to stay home on benefits and care for our disabled children should get out and work too don't you know?

I was responsible for the Sam Cam post. It was facetious.

And BTW I think Oliver Letwin is rather fun too.

The tories are only doing what needed to be done, the Government cannot run a budget deficit of around 10% of GDP indefinately. The fact is that the fiscal path which Labour Party was following wasn't sustainable and the deficit simply has to be brought down or we would end up in dire trouble.

Trying to remember who Oliver Letwin is... Is he the goblin lookalike? Rather have a night out with Anne Widdecombe if I had to choose one!

'Is he the goblin lookalike?'
No, I know the one you mean, he's on the Labour front bench.

Oliver Letwin is a lunatic. (His official title is Minister for Government Policy.)

I'm not so much miserable as scared witless. My sister had years when she was very ill and had to claim DLA - she's much better now, and working, but if she had a relapse she probably wouldn't get it under the new rules, so what's she supposed to do - starve in the street?

I'm in the public sector, but about to hand in my notice and do something else - I'm fed up with being regarded as the enemy by my political masters.

Letwin has got a brilliant and original brain. This does not mean he's got any sense though.

If by "original" you mean "totally disconnected from reality" then I'd agree with you.

I think the Governments doing what needs to be done and should be applauded for not bottling the big decisions like the Governments of some other countries have.

I actually love William Hague.

Is that you, Fffffion?

Just answering your OP ... I'm as miserable about it as a misery-guts from the miserable part of Miserable, Miseryland.

Off to read intelligent replies now

FAR less miserable than I was when fucking Labour were in power.

fully agree with niceguy.

labour can't wiggle its way out of responsibility for dashing the public finances. and for anyone who thinks "the bankers" are responsible for the state of the economy, you can't overlook who was overseeing them, and who allowed them to invest into massive property bubbles in Ireland and the US.

it's just an eternal mumsnet debate about the nasty tories vs. the hearts of gold labour. if only reality were so clear cut.

'I'm as miserable about it as a misery-guts from the miserable part of Miserable, Miseryland'

Is that you, Gordon?

'it's just an eternal mumsnet debate about the nasty tories vs. the hearts of gold labour. if only reality were so clear cut.'

agree, goodnightmoon. It's a bit more complicated than that. In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Poor old William Hague. He has a face and voice that only a mother (and maybe Fffffion) could love. In fact the entire conservative party look like some strange alien breed that has crawled from underneath a rock they have been festering under for several years. Not that I should be judging them on how they look, it shouldn't affect their ability to do their job. Hang on - they can't do that, either!

claig. Or do I mean