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to be so glad that my friend's daughter is going home tomorrow?

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duchesse · 06/07/2011 00:08

12, nearly 13 yo daughter of (French) school mate (hadn't seen her for about 15 years until last year though) has been here two weeks.

Over the last 2 weeks, she has:

-snacked constantly (her mum tells me she doesn't eat much when I express surprise that such a slender girl needs to eat every 30 mn or she basically keels over), helped herself to biscuits, crisps, bread, etc without asking although I made it clear when she arrived that only fruit was available between meals (same rule for everyone in this house);

-used the home phone to phone her parents about 3-4 times a day without asking permission,

-got her parents to ring up and get me to log her into the internet she could go on Facebook, got her mother to sanction 2-3 hours of FB and internet a day (which I consider crazy especially at her age), sent her here with a Blackberry on which she's been texting her friends constantly,

-basically refused to do the same chores as the other children in this house -ie lay and clear the table after one meal every 5 days

-demanded inappropriate food at random intervals (ie ice cream when none was on offer, fish and chips, repeatedly)

-continually made negative remarks about everything- took her to a concert at DD's school, all the performers were crap apparently (she plays in the conservatoire so obv vastly superior), sneering at children having pizza at 4:30 in a pizzeria

-rung her parents to complain that my DD is not treating her right- apparently replying "thank you" when someone compliments your nail polish is not the right thing to say.

Can you tell she's been driving me fecking nuts over the last two weeks?

1 week and 6 days she appeared to suddenly relax and calm down a lot- if she'd stayed a couple more weeks she'd have been fine. As it is I'm just overjoyed to be shot of her and more specifically her parents and their bizarre demands that their daughter be treated differently from my children and other foreign student (and seriously my little Spanish girl's parents are fine about us and on their third child with us and she's coming back for the autumn term).

My personal feeling is that her mother has become seriously unhinged and that the child is just expressing the pressures on her in her daily life. I actually think her mother is either deluded or lying about the food thing and worry that the child may have a health problem although tbh she could just be growing very fast. Either that or her mother starves her at home and she's eating while she can.

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jadefox · 06/07/2011 09:30

personally I dont see much wrong with kids eating between meals, as long as they eat their actual meal - however its your house and your rules. Its not fair on the other kids in the house if she has special privileges. On the bright side, lesson learned - you'll not have her back! xxx

GiddyPickle · 06/07/2011 09:35

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wordfactory · 06/07/2011 09:38

anon that's interesting that you have three course meals twice per day. And a tea time snack.
Probably that's quite a lot more food than my DC eat...and they are then looking for extras... perhaps I need to feed them far more at mealtimes.

That said they do a hell of a lot of sport at a high level so I am aware that they will probably need more than the odd apple between meals...goes out ot buy bagette and jam.

PinotsKittens · 06/07/2011 09:38

I think she was just homesick and a bit sad. Makes me want top hug her not berate her.

forkful · 06/07/2011 09:40

OP - do you think she is bulimic? Numerous trips to the toilet, air-freshener, toilet being cleaned? It could be that she manages to hide binging and bein sick when she is at home as perhaps she is able to go and buy extra food unknown to her parents. If you suspect this then I think it is certainly worth sharing with your friend. Sad

Spuddybean · 06/07/2011 09:43

I don't think that is a lot to eat at that age tbh. When i was that age i grew 9in over 2 years and ate constantly. My average school day:

Cereal & toast brekkie, packet of cookies & hot choc at break. 2 sandwiches, fruit, cheese/pate lunch, packet of munchies & a picnic bar on the walk home after school, micro meal at 4pm, toast & peanut butter, a packet of fruit shortcake biscuits & 3 cups of tea and then a full meal (spag bol or similar) in a larger portion than my workman father (and seconds!).

I stayed whippet thin. My over riding memory of being at others houses was faint inducing hunger. They often had the no snack rule and the dinner portions which they thought were huge were actually tiny.

quirrelquarrel · 06/07/2011 09:44

Rude to direct her towards the fruit bowl? Why? It's rude for a guest to studiously ignore the rules and just pick what she wants.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 06/07/2011 09:47

forkful... The girl was there for two weeks. Her parents have her the rest of the time and they would notice surely.

WibblyBibble · 06/07/2011 09:49

Maybe she can't stand your cooking so she's snacking to fill up so she doesn't have to eat it? Sorry, but meals in another coutry can be quite weird and unpalatable for children, rather than it necessarily being your cooking is objectively awful.

I don't know why you'd expect a child of that age to be tactful about performers in a school concert- would you expect a boy of 12 to have tact, actually? I think people set different standards for boys and girls on this, and with boys can be all 'oooh maybe he's got mild aspergers' to excuse it- well, maybe she has too?

The rest of it really doesn't sound like a big deal, and you are being unreasonable, sorry!

Spuddybean · 06/07/2011 09:53

....also, and just to say all my friends experience of the french and german exchanges were miserable because of the lack of food. Everyone complained of being hungry all the time and their food being restricted.

It was totally different when the exchange kids came over here tho! - they ate non-stop, the parents couldn't believe the amount of food they were going through. I thought it showed that deep down they were hungry and had not been allowed to eat when they needed to at home.

perfectstorm · 06/07/2011 09:53

anonacfr - I'm English, and that was my diet as a kid as well, except gouter was tea, and we rarely had cake unless Mum made it. We always had a salad with meals but not always pudding. I feed my family the same way now.

quirrelquarrel · 06/07/2011 09:54

Yes, let's have half the teenage population diagnosed with AS, that'll solve everything.

noddyholder · 06/07/2011 09:57

I think anyone 'extra' in a family house does tend to drive you nuts! No matter how lovely they seem and how good an idea it sounds! Add french into the mix and you have another dimension too Grin Wink

Halogen · 06/07/2011 10:51

If the girl is slim and healthy I can't see what the problem is with her eating plenty of snacks. She's a growing girl! She probably needs the calories. I am not a growing girl (am 42) but am probably as slim as her and I'd get shaky and faint if I only ate fruit between meals as I need the extra calories. Also I'd probably start losing weight and believe me that wouldn't be a good look (or very healthy).

The FB thing sounds pretty unreasonable in terms of the time spent. Half an hour or so would seem plenty to catch up with her friends and probably help her not to feel so homesick. Even if she's not sobbing in the corner, she probably does feel a bit lonely.

catgirl1976 · 06/07/2011 10:55

She won;t stay healthy if she snacks on crips and biscuits. They are NOT suitable everyday foods for anyone and certainly not children. They are occasional treats not a diet staple.

exoticfruits · 06/07/2011 11:04

We had a 13 yr old French boy. He was no trouble, he asked to use the phone. He ate large meals at mealtimes, he was a little different in that cheese and biscuits meant huge amounts of cheese and very little biscuit but I didn't mind that-at least he filled up. I don't do snacks-they are not necessary. We had things for treats occasionally- but no one needs crisps, biscuits and processed food on a daily basis. He had a habit of thinking that I could be a taxi driver at short notice but he was an only DC and wasn't used to factoring in toddler bed times, but beyond that he was no trouble.
I can't beleive what a hard time you are getting OP for not filling DCs up on processed food!

fanjobanjowanjo · 06/07/2011 11:12

French girl should have stayed at home, she clearly didn't want to come over.

I think she was rude and disrespectful of your home and rules.

GiddyPickle · 06/07/2011 11:15

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Amaretti · 06/07/2011 11:15

I absolutely bloody would expect my twelve year old boy to be complimentary about an orchestra playing, yes!

GiddyPickle · 06/07/2011 11:17

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goinggetstough · 06/07/2011 11:36

I am on the side of the OP. If the girl was homesick then that is sad (I was that child once) but it doesn't mean that she should be rude or use the phone without asking.
As for the chores I don't think the OP was thinking of sending the girl up chimneys! If my DC were guests especially over a 2 week period then I would expect them to offer to help set the table/clear it afterwards.
I would assume that the french family asked if their daughter could be part of an english family for 2 weeks. That means doing english things and being treated as a family member. If the family had wanted their daughter to be treated differently then maybe an english language camp would have been more suitable.

oohjarWhatsit · 06/07/2011 11:38

French girl should have stayed at home, she clearly didn't want to come over.

maybe she did but didnt realise she was being billeted in a prison camp :)

LadyBeagleEyes · 06/07/2011 11:49

I think you sound very unwelcoming OP. She's a young girl in a foreign country, staying with strangers.
My 16 year old biscuit eating, crisp eating son, would have been absolutely miserable in that situation, I think I'd have dragged him home.

Insomnia11 · 06/07/2011 11:52

I did a year in France as part of my university degree and I was 21. I felt quite miserable for the first few months and ate a lot of cheese and patisseries :)

anonacfr · 06/07/2011 12:10

Wow. Your 16 year old couldn't have handled a two week exchange without spending 3 hours a day on the internet, texting friends and calling you 4 times a day and helping himself to food throughout the day?
Hmm

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