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Health Tourism - woman has 5 babies on the NHS

545 replies

BlimmingCheek · 02/07/2011 22:44

AIBU to think that this woman is taking the bloody piss?

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3673011/Nigerian-mum-Bimbo-Ayelabola-flew-into-Britain-and-had-quins-on-the-NHS.html

I very much doubt she will be sent back. Who is paying her legal fees is what I would like to know?

Are we a soft touch or just a lovely compassionate country with enough resources for all?

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catgirl1976 · 05/07/2011 15:46

If you agree that "health tourism" at 40p per person per year is not what's causing the resource issues within the NHS I will gladly hand it over :)

alemci · 05/07/2011 16:10

Tax evasion is another story. I agree that is not so good either but it is deflecting from the issue of health tourism and lack of border controls.

Gooseberrybushes · 05/07/2011 16:24

No I won't agree with that Smile after all that figure is for eight months - and the real issues is the people who are not getting that health care while health tourists are. (I saw a figure for 200m today but have no idea where that comes from).

Sorry but if you agree health tourism is an abuse then you have to draw a line. Where are you going to draw that line? We cannot fund health care for the world. You are telling people who are being refused resources that it's a drop in the ocean. Well, their 10,000 a year for respite is an even tinier drop, but it's being refused. Perhaps we should never say no to anyone?

You can't make an impossible case. You can feel sorry for people and dislike the Sun, but if you're trying to make a case for health tourism then I can't see it ending well.

I don't even know what you're trying to defend. Yes there are problems in the NHS. But that's not a defence of this. Yes there are problems in Nigeria. But that's not a defence of this.

I don't really know what your point is. Yes there are other problems. Is that your whole point?

oohlaalaa · 05/07/2011 17:12

YANBU. This country cannot afford to provide a free world midwifery service.

mathanxiety · 05/07/2011 17:16

There's a thread on MN at the moment about the worst parts of giving birth. Many have mentioned horrible conditions on post natal wards -- filth, lack of attention, bad food, no chance of rest. Nobody so far (afaik) has mentioned the foreign women hogging all the best bits for themselves.

Actually, the thread should be posted in every British embassy in the world because it might just make some women think twice about going to Britain to have a baby.

Gooseberrybushes · 05/07/2011 20:26

Why do they need to think twice? They shouldn't be thinking about it at all.

mathanxiety · 06/07/2011 06:42

Twas a tongue in cheek remark -- I don't think there are crowds of newly pregnant women lining up in embassies reading the notices on the walls..

larrygrylls · 06/07/2011 07:54

Math is an unreconstructed Marxist. If you are not a Marxist, she will seem mad.

catgirl1976 · 06/07/2011 11:23

Oh and if you REALLY need another reason not to read the Sun - try the Millie Phone Hacking issue.

LadyBeagleEyes · 06/07/2011 11:59

Grin @ catgirl.
Sort of puts thing into perspective re where some people glean their information from, does't it.

catgirl1976 · 06/07/2011 12:01

:) LadyBeagle. I hope so!

fanjobanjowanjo · 06/07/2011 12:44

Haha "Bimbo"

mathanxiety · 06/07/2011 17:37

LOL Larry.

mathanxiety · 06/07/2011 17:39

(Anyone to the left of Margaret Thatcher seems like a Marxist to Larry.)

Birdsgottafly · 06/07/2011 17:41

I'm not a Marxist but when you study world politics and economics, as well as other social policy leglislation, he spoke some truths.

Gooseberrybushes · 06/07/2011 17:59
Smile

ironic that everyone is talking of this distracting from the real issues of the NHS and cuts

when actually you are all distracted from this issue by the fact that it's in the Sun Grin

Orbinator · 06/07/2011 18:12

This thread was started by an article from the same paper as "I gave birth to a fishfinger" and "There's a double decker bus on the moon"?

Was this thread started as a joke thread or something? Or shall we all quote from Garfield and other cartoons and become outraged?

catgirl1976 · 06/07/2011 18:31

:) Orbinator. I am distracted by the fact it is NOT an issue its bloody ANECDOTE

catgirl1976 · 06/07/2011 18:33

It is totally wrong for a cat to eat lasagne btw. He has no right to it as he has not contributed ANYTHING to making the lasagne in the first place. PLus he is a cat. He should be on the Whiskas.

mathanxiety · 06/07/2011 18:35

Ah now don't criticise the cat -- 'to each according to his needs..'

Gooseberrybushes · 06/07/2011 18:36

Oh I see it's not true at all. She doesn't exist, she didn't have five babies, she didn't come here when she was pregnant and she didn't give birth on the NHS. Who'da thunk it.

catgirl1976 · 06/07/2011 18:37

Well he treats that poor Odie with no respect. It's a disgrace

BlimmingCheek · 06/07/2011 19:54

Gooseberrybushes Don't you see that as immigration, whether legal or illegal, does NOT affect most of the 'upper class' arseholes on here, they do not give a shit about cases like this one. Also most of them feel a profound guilt that they are living in the 'rich' UK whilst all over the world poor babies are starving and they seem to think that the UK is responsible for this, everyone should feel the same and spout all that 'sins of the fathers' guff. Never mind the fact that most countries colonised by have had at least 50 years to sort themselves out.

Whilst they can probably afford private healthcare, private schools and would never have to compete with an Eastern European for a cleaning job, they forget that most of us can't and that is why we get a little annoyed about it.

All that 'if it's in The Sun/Mail, it's not news' crap is just a deflection and beyond pathetic and childish.

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Gooseberrybushes · 06/07/2011 20:05

I think you have a serious point: the people who really suffer are the poor and disenfranchisd in the UK.

catgirl1976 · 06/07/2011 20:22

No it's Odie. The cat bullies him relentlessly. He's the one who really suffers.