To feel touched by Katie Price's article on Harvey?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2009642/Katie-Prices-heartfelt-denunciation-Frankie-Boyles-vile-slur-Harvey.html

Oh for fuck's sake.

No we don't know KP, but fucking hell it feels like we do because a camera crew documents her every movement and has done of her kids for years and gives her most honest interview yet every week in OK magazine. At her own insistence and for our entertainment.

But maybe we would know more about her as a mother - other than the fact that she fucks off for weeks on end - if she had told us, instead of signing off some fake testimony?

You don't have to like the the joke or hate the child to notice that her ghost written article a year after the event might just be a teensy bit cynical and driven by more than one agenda.

Never said anyone here found it funny. Are you really saying that he shouldn't continue to receive pressure about it? It should just be forgotten?

Money cannot take away the emotion of having a child who will not grow up to be independant and who has many health issues. It might makes things easier for you but you cant buy anything to take the worry away.

AmberLeaf Thu 30-Jun-11 14:16:44

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Why?

TBH i cant even remember what my post said?

I'll use whatever language I want about her. I've been quite reserved actually and I fail to see how any of it can be perceived as indicative of any wider misogyny. I think she's a sociopath. I can't stand her. I don't have to think everyone is a great mother.

I did not say anywhere I think Harvey is lucky or she's lucky or any of the other crap you've said. Go and read things properly.

The woman will do anything to stay in the media spotlight, sadly....

It should be forgotten? Well, yes. I've got far more important things to do with my time, like, er, actually doing a job to get disabled people the equality they deserve. Rather than concentrate on a year old 'joke' and a glamour model, I'd rather be thinking about the meeting I've got next week about why my local bus has no wheelchair access, or why the local MP refuses to use a special phone which would enable his deaf constituents to communicate with him because he 'hates technology' or why we've got local deafblind children living in poverty without access to interpreters.

I don't need to pressure an insincere apology out of some fuckwit.

money does not make everything better.

we are fortunate enough to have money (not in KP's league, but we are more than comfortable, and can "buy in" help - just as bloody well, as getting any help out of the nhs/ss is nigh on impossible)

it means we are comfortable in our lives, and live in a nice house, and eat organic food and take nice holidays.

it does not help, as MArio said, the fact that dd1 wil never live independently, or that we had to fight for over 3 years to get her the education she is entitled to, and that we face that fight again soon. it doesn't help me when I am up all night with her because her sleep patterns have gone haywire, or when I am breaking my back carrying her (she is a tall nearly 7 year old) because she is so scared about something she cannot even stand upright.

It doesn't help figure out how to help her, and it doesn't solve any problems.

It is, of course, nice to not have to worry about bills, and to not be worried abotu where next month's rent is coming from. But the sacrifices we have had to make in life due to dd1's disability add up to more than that.

I would gladly be penniless and homeless if it meant dd1 did not have to face the difficulties she does (and I have been there before, so this is not an empty comparison) - if it meant she coudl go through life not being scared, not being able to communicate.

I have spent this eveing filling in ID cards for ICE bracelets, as it occurred to me that if I had an accident while driving with dd1 and was not conscious no-one would know what the hell to do with her. I am about to start working on getting her to wear her ID bracelet - only I have not been able to fill in the "other" emergency contact part, as there is no one who is able to help out to that degree. I have to make preparations for what will happen to dd1 in the event of dh and I not being here anymore, knowing that I cannot ask most people as they do not wan tot look after a "child like that"

suggesting that KP cannot be the "poster girl" for disability because she has money is ridiculous. she has the opportunity ot speak out - and she has used it.

for all those saying the comments were over a year ago, so why drag it up now - maybe it has taken that long ot get this programme through pitch and production? woudl not be unusual lenght of time, depending on what the programme is depicting.

but no, it has to be about KP just making another fast buck - not that she might have a point, and the means to make her point ot a whole lot of people.

just grow up, people. she is a mother, who cares for her son, and will fight to get others to see him as an actual person, not just a convenient stick to beat her with.

razzle re your 11:02 post.
There is an off switch and no one forces you to buy magazines .
Strikes me you listen , you read,
why? If its all so FFS to you.

Some of the bile on here re KP has been disgusting. It does not matter WHO it is , what her income is, or what her public profile is or isnt.
If someone on here had come on and said that someone had made such a remark about their disabled son then there would be uproar and probably over a zillion(ok I exaggerate but ykwim) posts.
Just because KP is a celeb , like or loathe her, she has every right to deal with the very public offensive remark about her child as any mother on here would have. How she chooses to do it is up to her, luckily she has access to be able to reply publically and instead of getting into a verbal slanging match she has chosen to use it and educate people about the discrimination prejudice and total lack of respect for people with any form of disability. I would have hoped that doing what you do you would be applauding her not negating everything she does as pointless because her son and his lifestyle is not typical of most.

Oh yeah harvey has wealth and a comfy lifestyle ...lucky him eh

fit2drop I have to disagree there... there would be a few sympathetic posts but then a bunch of fuckwits would pop up calling you scrounging scum etc...

Has anyone raised the issue of Knobbyex calling KP a "chav"? When did it become acceptable to demonise people with class based insults? I detest the word "chav" and using it implies belonging to an in-group entailing loathsome snobbery. Knobbyex you can't use that word, I reject your in crowd definition. You are not among friends, this is a messageboard.

glitterz sadly I have to concur , >

She can do what she likes, of course. I just don't believe her. I don't believe she is capable of empathy. No big deal. I don't ask that anyone share or take any notice of my opinion.

I'm interested in popular culture, I read/watch quite a bit of stuff about people I might not like. I suppose it's a bit like knowing your enemy. I also like to have reasonably informed opinions.

I just really can't see the point in trying to force an apology out of FB. He's a niche comedian like Jerry Sadowitz, who claims to have absolutely no boundaries. Not my cup of tea. I rather think Channel 4 shouldn't have shown it but people must like that sort of stuff and he hasn't broken any laws.

I think there are bigger priorities for finite resources and attention that's all.

I don't believe she is capable of empathy

How exactly do you come to this conclusion about someone that you dont know?

I think Katie Price is probably not so bad as some people on here seem to think. And she's probably not a saint either.

Amberleaf - the same way anybody else is coming to conclusions about her.

debivamp that is a wicked implication and assumption. KP has spoken out a lot about "that particular" photograph that showed her stumbling out of a club when pregnant. She was also filled with all the same guilt and associated feelings which a lot of mums with SN children have but has been assured by the professionals and it is well documented that harveys condition has nothing to do with her lifestyle at that time.

FFS can the knife be pushed in any deeper.

So not only is it not ok for her to speak up to protect her son , its her fault he's like it anyway

fuckin can of worms there debivamp ...not nice , not nice at all.

raz my views and conclusions of Katie Price are not via the media, its a much more personal and un-media led view.
and its real. And so is the mother of the little boy who has been used in the cheapest lowest way for some dipshit idiot to gain a laugh. AND I would imagine the mothers pain and anguish and desire to protect her son is real too.
I think some of the bile spewing "lets hate KP whatever the circumstances" posters deliberately forget that..... or maybe they just dont care... and that too is quite quite obscene

Remember her being interviewed on the Frank Skinner show, he was being sarcastic and saying that no one should need to stop getting completely plastered just because they were pregnant.

She agreed with him being too stupid to realise he was taking the rise.

So no I don't like the woman.

I watched it and it was intresting and it was good to see it being talked about in the MS/

Becuase lets face it no one is really intrested in listerning to anything that is said here not to the same level or anywhere near it.and I say that as a parent with disablities and a parent of a child with sn .At least Kp is willing to talk and support and bringa ttention to the issues for what ever reason it is done .Can not see anyone else doing it ?. Bono ,sting , brad&aAngelina ?

And as for the nmecalling well nothing like venom from other women towards someone that they do not know personally only what ,makes it to tv or the papers .And I suspect she went and still goes through a lot of did I do something to cause this .Do not begrudge the fact that she can but in help/care becuase lets face it if we could afford it we would do the same

and razzlebone sadly how long does it take Joe pulic to get thinsg done and talked about liek you said your having meetings abot still why no disabled buses and thinsg like that do not come out in papers becuase its not a pretty cause .But if a celerbrity talks about it then it reaches the public in a far wider way and then just maybe more pressure can be brought to bear

I'm interested in the concept several posters have raised about change. Change can happen in different ways - large scale (law, govt policy) and this change as a result of activism is easy to identify and to relate to individuals. X did a campaign so Y happened.

Impossible to quantify are the tiny, incremental changes in attitude of people towards disability in their private lives. I suppose this is the change I think could be effected by people watching KP's show. And it's for this reason that I feel her motives, the timing and whether we like her or not are unimportant.

Razzel it's all the same fight. You and kp have something in common, you want disabled people to not be treatedike secondclass citizens!

It doesn't matter what you think of her, it doesn't matter what I think of her, it's not about her. Why does who his mother is make it ok?