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The Non-Feminist Point of View

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JamesHuff · 29/06/2011 15:00

I have noticed over the last while that the Feminist section has grown over the last bit.

This does not surprise me, but I feel compelled to ask why this site has begun to ascribe to a sociopolitical ideology when it was originally a resource for parents.

I think that as a result of this discrepancy, non-feminist points of view should have their own section as well. I hope people who disagree with inequalities feminism has created within our legislation will be compelled to express themselves more often.

I don't see it as unreasonable. Since there will be disagreements on various topics, I just figure a non-feminist based section would be in order. This way parents have a choice that reflects both sides of the coin.

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Pagwatch · 29/06/2011 17:19

James

Do you think people may have been more polite if you had not hawked all over the internet telling everyone you were coming on here to try and upset people?

TrilllianAstra · 29/06/2011 17:19

So Jamez, the problem you have it that you know not what feminism IZ. (or how to spell blatant)

TimeWasting · 29/06/2011 17:20

James, what does the hyper-sexualised society mean?

floosiemcwoosie · 29/06/2011 17:21

"Men in most cases are assumed to be the violent person in relationships, even though there is evidence that points to the contrary."

Can you please reference your source.....before I punch your lightz in

reelingintheyears · 29/06/2011 17:21

Pagwatch..
Any more deletions and you may completely disappear....

Where did he come from?

reelingintheyears · 29/06/2011 17:22

You may just go up in a puff of smoke.

Just going for a fag now.

UmYeahLikeTotally · 29/06/2011 17:24

Jamez'z last post = bollockz

AnyFucker · 29/06/2011 17:24

floosie, I don't want to nitpick at your outstanding contribution, but don't you punch lights out ?

I can see you are not used to this violence lark, like wot I am Smile

AnnieLobeseder · 29/06/2011 17:26

So all the trivial details like women experiencing WAY MORE domestic violence than men, and only 6% of rapists being prosecuted, and women earning less than men, and women subsequently having to be the one to give up their careers when a couple have a baby and female genital mutilation and child brides still being a part of many cultures and women not being recognised as citizens in many countries and South African girls having a higher chance of being raped than learning to read and women only owning 1% of the world's property and 99% of the world's politicians being men means nothing because very occasionally UK law will favour a women slightly over a man?

You're right, obviously. Those poor poor men.

Hmm
Chen23 · 29/06/2011 17:27

Our global market is struggling under the influence of bad banking decisions, government waste, and poor business practices.

Do you really think feminist ideology is behind the banking crisis, govt waste and poor business practices?

can I have some of what you're smoking pls?

must be all the radical feminists running the big banks and mega corps that brought about the credit crunch right?

of course...........

Hullygully · 29/06/2011 17:28

I am here
Never fear
I won't play no gamez
With dear little Jamez
In case he comes over all queer.

So, Jamez, let us begin.

When did you first start to feel that the world was tilted askew and it just wasn't fair?

PrinceHumperdink · 29/06/2011 17:29

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floosiemcwoosie · 29/06/2011 17:30

AnyFucker

Thats the feminine way to do it!

Punching them in leavez less mess for the women to clean

PrinceHumperdink · 29/06/2011 17:30

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PrinceHumperdink · 29/06/2011 17:31

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HowlingBitch · 29/06/2011 17:31

Because these kinds of threads would happen. BOAKz

PrinceHumperdink · 29/06/2011 17:32

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mdowdall · 29/06/2011 17:32

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TimeWasting · 29/06/2011 17:33

Annie, I think he's talking about US law, reference to NOW.

Hullygully · 29/06/2011 17:33

Pagz what is happening? In the name of all that is flowery! You, deleterated. Again! What was your pome?

CrapolaDeVille · 29/06/2011 17:35

Shit James.....Did you know the head of the IMF is now a woman? Can't wait for her to start dishing out money to women.

Erm James, even if any of what you say is true it's men that make the decisions, not women. We live in a patriarchy, dear. So if you want anyone to blame look in the direction if people with dicks.

reelingintheyears · 29/06/2011 17:35

WTF..mdowdall.

TimeWasting · 29/06/2011 17:35

mdowdall, that's illogical.

dirgeinvegas · 29/06/2011 17:35

James thanks for replying. I'm not sure I'm any the wiser.

I do count myself as feminist (interestingly like timewasting I took more of an interest after becoming a mother) but I think perhaps we differ on our definition.

I have brothers, males friends, my DH. I'm not man-hating and wouldn't support any ideology that was.

Some of your examples off the top of my head (I can't see them as I post sorry):

Men being awarded custody of their children but still paying maintenance to their ex-partner. I don't know of this happening in the UK sorry. It certainly isn't the norm and I don't think is a feminist ideal. Surely the point of the maintenance payments is to support the children? I think the reality in the UK is nearer this - women are more likely to be left with the children and can often find they have difficulty getting the financial support from their ex-DP.

I think women being awarded custody is largely to do with they are generally the ones who do most of the childcare and so it is in the interests of the child for them to have that consistency. Now if men and women were paid equally and had equal
Opportunities for employment then perhaps women would chose to work more and men chose to work less/do more childcare. In those cases where a father has been the main carer and the mother has worked perhaps custody of the children would be awarded differently. A reason to campaign for equal rights rather than against them don't you think?

Domestic violence - yes of course there are instances of men being attacked by their partners but sadly the majority of domestic violence victims are women. I don't think you'll find evidence to the contrary to be honest.

Pagwatch · 29/06/2011 17:35

I think mdowdall has a little crush.
Ah bless.....