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Advice on going on holiday with sis and niece over eating issues

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pingu2209 · 28/06/2011 17:01

I have typed a few subject headings but they all seemed quite explosive and I want advice rather than being shouted down, so I opted for a plain subject with detail in the message! I was the OP who started the fussy eating thread, so those of you who have read/taken part in that you may now understand why I started it.

My niece is 13 and an increadibly fussy eater. For the first 4-5 years she would eat anything, she was a human dustbin. However, over the past 8 years she has become more and more fussy over food. My sister and brother in law do not see it, I believe it is because they have adapted how they eat over the years so they end up only buying what she likes etc. But it drives the rest of the family mad as we end up selecting where and what we all eat based on purely her fussiness.

I have eaten with my sister and niece a lot, for Sunday roasts and bbqs etc. My husband and children think it is extremely unfair that my niece (their cousin) gets a huge portion of meat (because that is literally all she will eat) and they get a small portion with veg and potatoes. However, we put up with it because it is normally just one day.

When we get together my neice will eat secretly away from my children so that they don't get any of whatever she is eating - normally this is a whole tube of Pringles, or Jaffa Cakes or those yoghurty pudding things by Cadburies. I don't mind her doing this as I actually don't want them eating all that junk around meal times and they would nag for it if they saw their cousin eating it. However, when she comes to my house she often ends up eating far more than her fair share of the junk food, which has not gone unnoticed by my husband, children or myself. Once she ate 4 Screwball icecreams in one sitting - but they were supposed to be 1 each (1 for her and 1 each for my children).

For the first time ever I am going abroad on a self catering holiday with my father and step mother, brother and wife and son, sister and husband and daughter and my husband and children. There will be a lot of us!

In order to share the work load my sister has asked that there is a jobs rota. She has asked that she does the cooking and others do the cleaning etc. I asked to share all the jobs especially the cooking because I enjoy cooking (as does she, sister in law and step mother). My sister asked me what I would cook. I said I don't know but it is unlikely to be hot meals as it will be warm weather so it is most likely to be platters of food such as tomatoes, cucumber, lettuce, cheeses, ham, pate, freshly cut bread, dips, crudite etc.

My sister has said that her daughter won't eat that and she really only eats roast meat or pasta with Ragu sauce. Therefore, she would rather cook so that her daughter can eat with the family without there being any issues around the table with the family making comment over what her daughter eats (my sister is correct, we will all make comment over my niece's attitude to food). My sister said she would cook roast meats and pasta as this is pretty much all her daughter eats.

I said to my sister I wasn't happy with the cooking arrangement and if we shared the cooking, on the days she cooked her daughter could join in the family meal, but if she didn't like what was on offer from her step grandmother or aunties, then she could have pasta boiled up for her with some Ragu sauce poured over it.

To be frank, i don't want roast meat or pasta every day of the holiday!

I have not yet said this, but I would also like to ensure that all the children (and adults) get their fair share of the things like biscuits, ice cream, crisps etc. I want to suggest that when we buy something like biscuits or crisps etc, that the person who has opened them does not hoof down the lot of them. I can picture the scenario, 1/2 hour before lunch my niece opens the crisps (because my sister will let her) and she offers them to my children and everyone else. I will say no my children can't have any as we are soon to eat a meal. So she will then eat the lot, not saving my children's fair share.

Am I being unreasonable? Over controlling?

OP posts:
childfreeatm · 29/06/2011 14:18

Ha, reading all of this has also brought back those times as a teenager where I modified my diet to try and be slimmer - it doesn't sound like an eating disorder if she'll happily eat junk food. Like people have said, it may just be that she's not used to sharing and doesn't realise she should. Have a nice holiday, I hope you sort things :)

Ragwort · 29/06/2011 14:33

I'd love to know the reason behind having this great big family holiday when it clearly sounds like a disaster waiting to happen - and you must promise to come back and tell us how it went !! Grin

bumblingbovine · 29/06/2011 14:36

Well "insisting" on seafood in a paella rather than thinking of some compromise like taking her dn's portion out before adding the seafood, and then taking pleasure in that strikes me as fairly immature.

I think it is perfectly reasonable to insist that the the family eat a varierty ot meals and to organise a sensible arrangement about how junk food is shared out but the comment below says a great deal about how difficult this family must be for a child with eating issues

bumblingbovine · 29/06/2011 14:40

Many bulimics will binge on junkfood and them make themselves sick. Of course people with eating diorders can eat junk food.

My major worry for this young girl actually is that in a family with so little sympathy and so many obvious control issues (what does it matter to the OP that her niece will only eat a restricted diet) that this girl is in danger of developing a serious eating disorder. but let's not worry about that, lets just moan how she might spoil our holiday by eating some of the other children's pringles and ice cream!

FellatioNelson · 29/06/2011 14:47

An eating disorder is just that - a disorder. It can take many and various forms, and is not just about straightforward anorexia or bulimia. It can be faddy eating, compulsive eating, a combination of all of the above...

FellatioNelson · 29/06/2011 14:59

You are right of course bumbling people should have no business worrying about whether this girl should or shouldn't live on meat and pasta - let her get on with it, and focus on your own children, HOWEVER, the point here is, the girl's parents are expecting everyone else to fit in around her, rather than just quietly accommadating her quirks and demands separately, and letting everyone else eat normally, with some interesting variety.

Plus, she can be as greedy and picky as she likes, but not when it is the detriment of the rest of the people sharing mealtimes with her. That is just not on.

northerngirl41 · 29/06/2011 16:30

The real problem I have with this is that the OP doesn't get to ignore the niece's eating habits when she's making puking noises at all the other food which is getting served up or scoffing all the junk food which her kids aren't allowed just before dinner ("Hey that's not fair Mum, why is cousin getting to eat crisps now?!" or "No there isn't any Pringles left, cousin ate them" afterwards.)

It seems like her mum is incredibly defensive about her daughter's eating habits - and I see why she would be since she's accommodated this fussy eater and basically created the problem. Agree with her that you won't comment on DN's eating habits as long as DN doesn't comment on yours.

Couple of ways of dealing with this and I think at 13 the niece is old enough to hold her tongue and not comment when she doesn't like something and to make her own food if she can't find something to eat and to try new things as part of life's adventure. If necessary you could do a "taste test" game with the kids and see if she'd join in? There'll be things your kids don't like too.

For the junk food I would actually just let all the kids eat it whenever they want but once it's gone, it's gone. They are after all on holiday and it won't really harm them for a short period of time. That way they can join in when niece is scoffing and get their fair share.

warthog · 13/07/2011 08:15

any update?

talkingnonsense · 14/07/2011 15:52

Did you manage to sort something out?

skybluepearl · 14/07/2011 16:10

half the joy of going on hopiliday is the food. don't pander to the fussy eater. be nice and firm but explain that you don't want roasts/pasta and that it's only fair that you all take turns to cook.

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