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AIBU?

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to think people should respect my choice of name?

332 replies

DuchessofPsmith · 11/06/2011 23:22

I'm a regular MNer, but am writing under an assumed name (and using more fake names) for what's about to be obvious reasons.

DP is in fact DH. We'd had a non-legal shindig a year after we met, and told everybody that's that. And part of that was because during my previous marriage I was driven nuts by a few assholes misguided friends who'd refused to accept I hadn't changed my name: that it was still "Ms Psmith" not "Mrs Ahmed", so I really wanted to avoid giving anbody a reason to get it wrong again.

DP and I thought a bit later that it might be both pleasing to his mum, and protecting for me if anything should happen to him, to do the legal thing, so we secretly married, inviting only our mutual best friend and DH's mum as witness. We made it clear to both of them that this was to be kept secret, and that my name would remain "Ms Psmith".

Within days, the old bat made me regret inviting her, making jokes about total strangers asking "which Mrs Jones?" (as if they'd know). And within a few months DP/H and I were getting [holiday] cards from her relatives addressed to "Mr and Mrs Jones".

A few years went by. DP/H in the meantime heard from his sister that MIL had blabbed to her as well, but it wasn't officially General Knowledge. DP/H of course explained why this was, and all the stuff you read above, i.e. to respect my name.

We got invited to a wedding in her neck of the family; I sent hand-written acceptances using our two names. So, I was a but surprised to see my dinner placecard written as not "Jane Psmith" but "Jane Jones".

We didn't let it ruin our evening (although the general white-trashiness of the event was worthy of a whole 'nother thread). We stayed through dinner but left before the disco (my being 8 months pregnant proved useful for escape). On our way out, during the goodbye and pleasantries with SIL, I handed her my placecard and said "I am certain I spelled my name correctly on my acceptance - could you please in due course pass on my disappointment to whomever was responsible for this that they chose not to respect my wishes."

DP/H's next phone call with his mother started with her launching right into "If you're ringing to apologise, you're too late and it won't be sufficient" because apparently I "went ballistic" and "ruined the bride's big day" (we'd said nothing about it to her - indeed, I made sure to tell SIL we weren't going to bother B&G with this!).

We have since had no apology either from MIL or SIL. The only thing SIL had to offer - and this is where you MNers come in! - is "well, since I know you're married, I assumed your name was changed".

AFTER THAT ENTIRE CONVERSATION HE'D HAD WITH HER?!? AFTER MY ACCEPTANCE NOTE IN MY NAME?!? AAARRRGGGHHH!

Moreover, I am now bothered by the thought that if what SIL perceives to be my "married name" (I am gagging even typing this) was used, does that mean she spread the secret further? How many people now know?

I actually felt compelled to look up the legality of it, and confirmed what I'd thought I'd known: that name change is voluntary and through usage - though marriage is one of the reasons one might do it, it is not automatic. There is no legal "name change fairy".

So I know leagally where I stand, but what's general consensus? Looking forward to your thoughts.

OP posts:
tiredlady · 12/06/2011 10:20

OP,
You are coming across as a bit of an idiot unfortunately.

I kept my maiden name when I got married 10 yrs ago,but I am not so precious about it that I would make big deal if someone referred to me as Mrs DHSurname.

Honestly, aren't there more important things to get worked up about?

Bandwitch · 12/06/2011 10:24

OP came back as "Ifoundoutlater"!!

AnyFuleKno · 12/06/2011 10:27

Are you planning to tell you child that you're married or not? You won't be able to expect them to keep it secret. Imagine it could be v confusing for the kid.

Collision · 12/06/2011 10:28

What a lot of tosh on this thread!

Did the OP forget her namechange half way through? That was the funniest part of the thread.

Bandwitch · 12/06/2011 10:34

No, she attempted a sock puppet identity but one sentence in it was obviously her!!

Bandwitch · 12/06/2011 10:37

So here's the evidence. OP insists that her marriage is kept top secret, creates a sock puppet identity to agree with herself,,, and then asks AIBU?
(but doesn't think that she is being U).

I feel sorry for the OP. She has clearly, totally and utterly lost perspective here. Her priorities are all over the place. She was stroppy at a wedding just to make a point.

I wonder is there some other reason for keeping the wedding secret? Did you only HALF want to get married? Are you keeping it secret because you KNOW on one level that it is doomed???????

AnyFuleKno · 12/06/2011 10:42

Bandwidth, that was pretty funny when she revealed that obviously the SIL at the wedding was the brides mother. That was never mentioned anywhere in the op's post. Grin

AnyFuleKno · 12/06/2011 10:42

Bandwitch, soz

EricNorthmansMistress · 12/06/2011 10:43

This is insane! I'm 100% behind the decision not to take H's name on marriage, I am vociferously Ms Myname not Mrs hisname. However the OP went far far too far in correcting the SIL at the wedding. How unutterably rude.

It's also completely bizarre to keep a marriage secret in case people call you Mrs Hisname. I've only been called Mrs Hisname once, by a policeman. TBF in DH's culture women don't change their names so maybe not such a battle as some have, but otherwise it's a simple matter of saying 'No, it's Ms actually' Confused

MarioandLuigi · 12/06/2011 10:44

I would love if the bride at the wedding came on here and posted ' AIBU to think this guest is a bit twattish and definately mad?'

Bandwitch · 12/06/2011 10:46

oooh i didn't spot that slip up! dont' ever murder anybody OP, you wouldn't stand up to the interrogation afterwards!

stillfrazzled · 12/06/2011 10:46

After thinking about it carefully, I took DH's name on marriage. I am far from being a Stepford Wife (we still have separate finances etc) but I made the choice. Probably helped that DH was extremely unbothered and in fact offered to take my name if I preferred.

I think YABU to keep your name, and to want to be called it, and to be pissed off with people playing games and ignoring you.

YABUtterlyU and a rude twat to bring it up at the wedding, especially in such a pompous way, and to create a sock puppet to agree with you (if that's what you did). HTH.

pinklovingfeminist · 12/06/2011 10:47

It's all quite weird, getting married in secret is bizarre and it was very rude to speak to a bride like that on her wedding day, you should have left it and said something later.

nenevomito · 12/06/2011 10:48

I'm pretty sure its been said already but....

YANBU to want to keep your own name.
YANBU to have a secret wedding.
YAB a bit U to expect MIL not to tell anyone about her son getting married. I'm good at secrets, but if my son got wed I'd find it hard not to say anything.

However, you were absolutely 100% incredibly unreasonable to have said anthing AT ALL at the wedding regarding the name card. Doing it just before you left was unpleasant . Would it have killed you to have let it drop that one time or at least wait until after the wedding?

What it will have said to DHs family that you think your choice is more important than manners on someone else's big day and my advice is to apologise for that.

Just to be clear - you are not apologising for wanting to be called by your name, you are apologising for being rude at a wedding.

MarioandLuigi · 12/06/2011 10:50

Not another sockpuppet thread - Have only just read another!

loiner45 · 12/06/2011 10:52

Which sentence Bandwitch? All I saw was someone agreeing with her who seemed to have similar experiences, as I have also had similar experiences with people aggressively trying to change my name to his name (not genuine mistakes) I don't see why you would assume anyone agreeing with her was a sock puppet... Horrible long sentence, sorry about that.
I think OP had every right to be annoyed - but on reflection agree that the wedding was not the place to raise it.

CMOTdibbler · 12/06/2011 10:58

I absolutely hate being called Mrs DH (and it winds him up too) - but alas even after 16 years of marriage (and constant correcting), people still do it. So I do sympathise with the OP, but at a wedding is never the time to say that sort of thing as it always causes strife

Bandwitch · 12/06/2011 11:00

Just "Ifoundoutlater". I think that was the only sock puppet account, but I only read the first few pages and the last few! might have missed something crucial.

I was going on gut instinct. The 'other' poster's language 'we are talking about....'. Plus, revealing another piece of information!

Same poster! I'd stake a kidney on it. Also, their style of post, both of them emphasised certain words.

Bandwitch · 12/06/2011 11:06

ps, I don't really care btw. This is a harmless and amusing thread.

DontGoCurly · 12/06/2011 11:09

I agree Bandwitch.

Morloth · 12/06/2011 11:13

Shrug, sock puppets aside, I can't imagine why you are getting your knickers into such a twist. Who cares what they want your name to be?

I haven't changed my name, sometimes things are addressed to Mr & Mrs DH's Name, sometimes things are addressed to Mr & Mrs My Name, sometimes I am referred to as Mrs Morloth DH's Name sometimes DH is referred to as Mr My Name.

I just can't imagine giving a fuck really, it is totally irrelevant to my whole life.

Sometimes people are doing it on purpose, I still can't be bothered caring because it does matter.

lifechanger · 12/06/2011 11:16

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Lonnie · 12/06/2011 11:25

OP I think you are really over thinking this and I shall put it down to you being hormonal and 8 months pregnant.

YANBU to keep your name (I dont get it but thats a completely different thing and you likely didnt have as embarassing a maidenname as I did)

You are being weird about the secret wedding and I would like the explanation for yours and dh's reasoning for it not to be told to people?

YABVU to say something at the wedding.. I do want to say that I understood your comments about what you had said to the bride and groom about looking happy together. I also want to comment that many will see both good and bad sides of events and I suspect that was what You wwere trying to do. However unfortunatly because you come accross as being over the top with the name thing you didnt do yourself any favours there.

my advice to you is to take the highroad. If you get cards etc from people next time you see them comment " pleaase remember I am not Mrs X I am Mis Y that is how I wish to be titled and I would appriciate you remembering"

Dont mention it further and if any call you directly by the name you dont want to be called do not react. Dont make a scene (and yes you did at the wedding) Dont make a big deal about it just remain calm.

And honestly dont get worked up about it.. it will happen over and over generally when you chose to do something less common it will cause issues.

clemetteattlee · 12/06/2011 11:26

I can sort of understand why the OP got snippy. I have, in the past, got irritated at cards/invitations addressed to Mr and Mrs (his initial) C, and I have also been known to inwardly sulk about being referred to as Mrs C rather than Dr C. But then I got over myself...

Here's hoping the arrival of your baby leaves you no more time to be so ridiculously self-absorbed...

Mamaz0n · 12/06/2011 11:29

reading this back this morning it is even more bonkers than last night.

ifound is definitly a puppet.

I am now finding ti hilarious that OP was so put out by the crappy wedding. I'm sure hers was a blast