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to think people should respect my choice of name?

332 replies

DuchessofPsmith · 11/06/2011 23:22

I'm a regular MNer, but am writing under an assumed name (and using more fake names) for what's about to be obvious reasons.

DP is in fact DH. We'd had a non-legal shindig a year after we met, and told everybody that's that. And part of that was because during my previous marriage I was driven nuts by a few assholes misguided friends who'd refused to accept I hadn't changed my name: that it was still "Ms Psmith" not "Mrs Ahmed", so I really wanted to avoid giving anbody a reason to get it wrong again.

DP and I thought a bit later that it might be both pleasing to his mum, and protecting for me if anything should happen to him, to do the legal thing, so we secretly married, inviting only our mutual best friend and DH's mum as witness. We made it clear to both of them that this was to be kept secret, and that my name would remain "Ms Psmith".

Within days, the old bat made me regret inviting her, making jokes about total strangers asking "which Mrs Jones?" (as if they'd know). And within a few months DP/H and I were getting [holiday] cards from her relatives addressed to "Mr and Mrs Jones".

A few years went by. DP/H in the meantime heard from his sister that MIL had blabbed to her as well, but it wasn't officially General Knowledge. DP/H of course explained why this was, and all the stuff you read above, i.e. to respect my name.

We got invited to a wedding in her neck of the family; I sent hand-written acceptances using our two names. So, I was a but surprised to see my dinner placecard written as not "Jane Psmith" but "Jane Jones".

We didn't let it ruin our evening (although the general white-trashiness of the event was worthy of a whole 'nother thread). We stayed through dinner but left before the disco (my being 8 months pregnant proved useful for escape). On our way out, during the goodbye and pleasantries with SIL, I handed her my placecard and said "I am certain I spelled my name correctly on my acceptance - could you please in due course pass on my disappointment to whomever was responsible for this that they chose not to respect my wishes."

DP/H's next phone call with his mother started with her launching right into "If you're ringing to apologise, you're too late and it won't be sufficient" because apparently I "went ballistic" and "ruined the bride's big day" (we'd said nothing about it to her - indeed, I made sure to tell SIL we weren't going to bother B&G with this!).

We have since had no apology either from MIL or SIL. The only thing SIL had to offer - and this is where you MNers come in! - is "well, since I know you're married, I assumed your name was changed".

AFTER THAT ENTIRE CONVERSATION HE'D HAD WITH HER?!? AFTER MY ACCEPTANCE NOTE IN MY NAME?!? AAARRRGGGHHH!

Moreover, I am now bothered by the thought that if what SIL perceives to be my "married name" (I am gagging even typing this) was used, does that mean she spread the secret further? How many people now know?

I actually felt compelled to look up the legality of it, and confirmed what I'd thought I'd known: that name change is voluntary and through usage - though marriage is one of the reasons one might do it, it is not automatic. There is no legal "name change fairy".

So I know leagally where I stand, but what's general consensus? Looking forward to your thoughts.

OP posts:
5DollarShake · 12/06/2011 07:48

Having a secret wedding because you think people will inevitably use your married name is beyond ludicrous.

DialsMavis · 12/06/2011 08:04

Can you explain a little more about the "non legal shindig" please? was it just a party to celebrate your love?

Lovebendicks · 12/06/2011 08:23

I have kept my name for several years because it is part if me & only recently started using my married name I would never gave created such a fuss. Especially. At. A. Wedding.

All I can think is that you must be very hard work & I'm not surprised your in laws like winding you up.

slovenlydotcom · 12/06/2011 08:39

you sound a complete arse and I bet they were so relieved that you left the wedding early and let them get on with enjoying themselves and what you did at the wedding was hugely rude - handing the place card back- you say you didn't say anything to the B&G, but you asked SIL to pass news of your displeasure to whoever was responsible - B&G I expect.

So yes that probably did upset them. nice.

diddl · 12/06/2011 08:40

"It's my understanding that in the UK when a divorced woman remarries her former husband's surname is shown on the marriage certificate."

Only if she still uses it.

If she has gone back to her maiden name, then that is obv on the marriage certificate.

TBH OP, I think that you shouldn´t have told anyone that you were married if it´s such a big deal-and certainly not invited MIL to the wedding.

RottenTiming · 12/06/2011 08:42

Oh Dear Duchess ! You have made a bit of a tit of yourself haven't you ?

You had a secret marriage but invited your MIL - big mistake on your and dh's part, how did you think she would resist telling people, with her being of a different generation where being married was an achievement and (as your are pregnant) having children out of marriage was considered shameful and brought shame on the whole family.

You kicked up a fuss at a family wedding showing your lack of social skills and self-centred nature - huge mistake. You realise that you are now the butt of IL's family jokes and this is annoying you is it not. It's not the image you were trying to project in wanting to retain your maiden name

IMHO one of the valid reasons for retaining your maiden name would be for professional reasons so it would not matter one jot of the family called you Mrs husband's name as you were not attending the wedding in your professional capacity.

Can you explain what your reasons were for wating to retain your maiden name, is H's name vile/daft or does it belong to another culture that you don't want to be associated with or have you a professional reputation built up in your previous name which you want to protect/keep going ?

TheFlyingOnion · 12/06/2011 08:48

wow, wouldn't it be easier to tell everyone you were getting married but keeping your name?

I mean, its hardly unheard of, is it?

No wonder your MIL is totally confused, it all sounds a bit cloak and dagger to me...

SuePurblybilt · 12/06/2011 08:49

They call me STACEY

JenniL1977 · 12/06/2011 08:58

I was finding this all quite amusing until the OP slagged off the actual wedding.
You just sound horrible. You say in your first post that you didn't let the wrong name on the card "ruin your evening" but clearly you have or you wouldn't have been snippy about it with the mother of the bride. You then call the wedding "White-trash": your DH's sister who has done the organising, paying for, stressing over and I would assume her very best to give her child the wedding they wanted is labelled White-trash? I would bet that you've sat there through the whole day with a look of snobby horror and a raised eyebrow on your face.
Then, god forbid you could have actually gone and asked what was happening in the hiatus between the wedding breakfast and the evening do; no, you've chosen to wind yourself up and be a martyr by hanging around for 4 hours. Anyone with any intelligence would have either a)worked it out from the timings of the ceremony, breakfast and evening do or b) asked.
A cash bar? People had to walk to go and get some money from a cash point? OHMYGOD what a fucking trauma. What did you want, a bollinger fountain? Except that wouldn't have been good enough for you as no-one would have respected the fact that you were pregnant, which you then "used as an excuse to escape." This phrase smacks of your repeated snobbery and what sounds like obvious disdain for your poor husband's family. And you dragged your DH away at around 8pm from a family wedding? Good grief.
Tbh, if you were in my family, I'd be calling you anything but your non-married or your married name, which nobody else gives a flying fuck about anyway. Get over yourself, chill the fuck out and try being nice to your DH's family; you might get somewhere with them then.

AnyFuleKno · 12/06/2011 09:00

Op you are really over thinking the whole thing. Secret wedding? Blustering over ILs using the wrong name? You are giving your ILs all the power by being remotely arsed when they use the wrong name.

teenidentity · 12/06/2011 09:00

If her dh/dp/whatever he is today has any sense he'll dump her eventually.

GwendolineMaryLacey · 12/06/2011 09:02

Oh Dear Duchess ! You have made a bit of a tit of yourself haven't you ?

:o :o

Lovebendicks · 12/06/2011 09:13

It'll be interesting to see if op bothers to reply to any of these posts

gapants · 12/06/2011 09:17

just marking my place.

Can I just say there has been a veritable clatter of bun fight threads recently. Jolly good show from the OP, how do they keep thinking of these obscure thread topics and carry on the indignant martyrdom the whole way through?

((((((applauds the op)))))))))

DontGoCurly · 12/06/2011 09:37

What utter cockknockerry OP.

So much fail. By YOU. No-one gives a crap what your name is. Your 'long conversation' to tell SIL probably went in one ear and out the other. I'd imagine she tuned you out and nodded along just to humour you.

Your delusion that anyone gives a second thought to your secret wedding and your navel gazing musings over your name is hilarious.

You made a show of yourself at the wedding by mentioning it. You were outré and vulgar to do so. Bad manners. A fucking card placename, it's to tell you where to sit! I'm not married, I don't bother with it, I'm in a long termer and happy like that, but if someone called me Mrs Whatever not one fuck would I give. Because it doesn't matter. At all.

Loads of my married friends haven't changed their names. It's no big deal. Sometimes they get letters with Mrs Husbands Surname. They dont give a shit.

So yes you are being unreasonable and ridiculous and rude.

GooGooGadget · 12/06/2011 09:51

cocknockerry Grin

darleneoconnor · 12/06/2011 09:56

OP I dont think YABU but you should probably have posted this in 'feminism', there are too many Stepford Wives types elsewhere on MN, esp AIBU.

GwendolineMaryLacey · 12/06/2011 09:57

Cocknockerry? My aunt lives there, it's just outside Galway isn't it? :o

DontGoCurly · 12/06/2011 09:58

Sure is, just 'out the road' Grin

GwendolineMaryLacey · 12/06/2011 09:58

Don't be such an eejit darlene. I don't think anyone has a problem about the name change, just that there's no need to be a tosser over it. And if the choice is between tosser or Stepford wife (whatever that is) then I'll take the SW.

LadyBeagleEyes · 12/06/2011 10:00

Well if I met you op, i would deliberately call you by your married name just because you're so precious and I would snigger behind my hand just seeing how annoyed you got.Grin

StewieGriffinsMom · 12/06/2011 10:05

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

CoteDAzur · 12/06/2011 10:09

"If you love heat, do post again on the subject of the white trashiness of the wedding that someone paid good money for you to attend and I'll fire up my flame-thrower."

Instant classic Grin

Bandwitch · 12/06/2011 10:15

I am turning into my mother Confused because I have read the first two pages of this, and decided that you need a real problem to get your teeth into.

TidyDancer · 12/06/2011 10:18

This is so weird. People get worked up over the most silly things. A secret wedding and all this drama just because of a fecking name?! Wow.

If it was really that important to the OP, she should've invited no one to the wedding and got a couple of strangers to witness it.